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Offline daisy

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Re: General Neighborhood Safety
« Reply #30 on: August 21, 2007, 11:13:09 AM »
In general, I've always felt pretty safe in Astoria.  I've lived here 10 years, and pretty much know the area in and out.  But it is the city, and one has to remember that and keep their wits about them.  Things do happen, like that woman who was sexually assaulted and robbed just last week along Ditmars.  I'm not going to say that as a single woman walking home alone at night, that I haven't been approached, felt threatened, and been afraid at times on my walks home.  At the same time, I'll be damned if I let that control me and force me to be in by 9pm or walk around with escorts.  I do wish I had superpowers :)  I love living in Astoria, and if I felt unsafe all the time, I would have moved long ago.

As far as ethnic tensions, that's an interesting question.  Anyone?  Speaking for myself, I enjoy diversity and it's one of the things that I love about Astoria.  When I do hear slurs, I hear it from old men and women, the Old Guard, whose minds are long set, and whose are not going to change.  I ignore them.  But I realize there are tensions with the younger generation too, I just don't think it's that different from anywhere else.  Interesting question though.

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Re: General Neighborhood Safety
« Reply #31 on: August 21, 2007, 11:45:10 AM »
Thanks, Daisy.  I guess I asked the ethnic tension part of the question because I'm moving back from Chicago.  Although Chitown is far, far more segregated than Gotham is (unfortunately, because otherwise Chicago is a great town), you rarely hear racial/ethnic/orientation-related slurs on the street.  Walking through Astoria this past week, I heard a few (I experienced the same thing neighborhood-scoping in Harlem).  Maybe it's always been this way back home in NYC and my time away made me forget?  I dunno.  But this is probably my biggest concern about Astoria. 

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Re: General Neighborhood Safety
« Reply #32 on: August 21, 2007, 11:55:56 AM »
Thanks, Daisy.  I guess I asked the ethnic tension part of the question because I'm moving back from Chicago.  Although Chitown is far, far more segregated than Gotham is (unfortunately, because otherwise Chicago is a great town), you rarely hear racial/ethnic/orientation-related slurs on the street.  Walking through Astoria this past week, I heard a few (I experienced the same thing neighborhood-scoping in Harlem).  Maybe it's always been this way back home in NYC and my time away made me forget?  I dunno.  But this is probably my biggest concern about Astoria. 

What kind of reacial slurs did you hear, was it just teens lazily throwing them around in conversation or people saying them to eachother in anger?

Maybe i am oblivious or just hardened to it, but I never (besides usual teen vocabulary( hear anything like that.

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Re: General Neighborhood Safety
« Reply #33 on: August 21, 2007, 11:56:56 AM »
I would like to hear other people's experience with this, especially those who may have experienced or heard slurs.  My only direct experience with this was at a restaurant, Telly's Taverna, where I and my party were made fun of due to our Latin heritage.  I must stress though, that this was over 5 years ago, and I haven't experienced such things at any restaurant since then.  Racial/ethnic slurs must still happen, but I don't think and would hope it wasn't prevalent.  But I am light-skinned and can pass for Greek and am part Italian, so I realize I am not the best person to speak of this.  There is a large gay community here as well.  What has their experience been?  

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Re: General Neighborhood Safety
« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2007, 12:04:20 PM »
I've never heard or seen people using slang that I thought was directed at someone in a violent or openly hostile way. I've probably heard negative racial and ethnic slang in the 'hood, but never paid it mind because of the tone.

It could really depend on where in Astoria, tho'.

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Re: General Neighborhood Safety
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2007, 12:49:09 PM »
My girlfriend & I get stared at occasionally but no one's actually ever said or done anything.

I've never felt unsafe anywhere in Astoria - I live along Ditmars near Astoria Park & I've walked home at all hours.  The recent attack at 26th & Ditmars was so shocking because it's such an anomaly.

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How far is too far to walk?
« Reply #36 on: August 22, 2007, 09:50:52 AM »
I guess this question is geard towards the ladies. How many blocks would you say is too far to walk to and from a train station at night, say after or around 10 p.m.?  I'm looking to move to the area and was wondering if a seven minute walk to the N or R train is relatively safe.  I've noticed that some of the blocks tend to be a tad long...It's around 30th I think...

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Re: How far is too far to walk?
« Reply #37 on: August 22, 2007, 09:55:13 AM »
safety wise? i think its a personal decision.

i current live about a 5-7 min walk from the ditmars N and thats fine.
my previous apartment was a 10-15 from either 30th ave N or Steinway R. but i was walking toward the 40's.

i know that around 21st street and below can get sketchy depending on what ave you're off.

where are you looking?

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Re: How far is too far to walk?
« Reply #38 on: August 22, 2007, 09:58:35 AM »
If you are doing most of the walking on one of our well-lit avenues, you should feel fairly safe. If it is on one of the odd-numbered avenues, that are not as well-lit, not as much commercial foot traffic, I would say 5–7 blocks. I am also assuming the 1 block walk down a street to get to your apartment.
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Re: How far is too far to walk?
« Reply #39 on: August 22, 2007, 10:06:54 AM »
the last place I looked was on 30th avenue, and it was roughly a 7 minute walk to the R,V.  I did notice a school nearby and a cafe on the end street of the apartment, which I thought were good signs...though I was walking while their was still light out. 

I think you're right though, it really comes down to a personal decision and what I might, in the end feel comfortable with.  I guess it never hurts just to really keep your wits about you wherever you are....

I'm still looking but I defintely like Astoria...

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Re: How far is too far to walk?
« Reply #40 on: August 22, 2007, 10:22:31 AM »
the last place I looked was on 30th avenue, and it was roughly a 7 minute walk to the R,V.  I did notice a school nearby and a cafe on the end street of the apartment, which I thought were good signs...though I was walking while their was still light out.
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Re: How far is too far to walk?
« Reply #41 on: August 22, 2007, 10:28:38 AM »
Come to think of it, I'm not 100% sure...lol. I do remember hopping on a train going downtown and had just walked about 2-3 blocks.  It was about a 5-7 minute walk.  The apt. was also a nice distance from Broadway as well which I really loved!  I also think the G train is in the area...

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Re: How far is too far to walk?
« Reply #42 on: August 22, 2007, 10:32:19 AM »
I think it entirely depends on the area and yeah, whether or not you're comfortable with walking that far.  I live on 27th St near 20 Ave, an area I like to call the Boonies.  It's a 10 minute walk to the train at Ditmars, but I stick to the main drag 31St at night, and then walk along the Avenue til I get to my street.   It is a very residential area, lots of grass and trees, lots of houses.  I like the walk because it's peaceful and leaves me to my thoughts.  The area is generally safe, although I won't kid myself, it is desolate as soon as you leave 31 St and walk away towards 29th St (this is East?), especially after 10pm.  And a girl did get assaulted just a couple weeks ago in my area.  So yeah, it's dissettling to say the least, but I think things like that can happen anywhere,  and the best most of us can do, is keep our wits about us, pay attention to what's going on around us, and possibly take some self-defense courses.  Or hire a bodyguard :)  Take a walk around, take a walk around at night, see how the area makes you feel.  There is a distinct difference between my area and the area past 21st near 12 St and Astoria Blvd.  I would choose my area any day.

The 30th Avenue area is pretty nice in my opinion.

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Re: How far is too far to walk?
« Reply #43 on: August 22, 2007, 10:47:44 AM »
I think it's a lot more about where you're walking than how far. I live maybe a 10 minute walk from the subway, but IMHO, as long as I'm not eat of 21st St, I'm okay with that.

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Re: How far is too far to walk?
« Reply #44 on: August 22, 2007, 11:00:43 AM »
Thanks to all for the quick responses! It really shows the community does in fact look after one another, which I consider to be an awesome blessing and a good sign to move to an area! 

I know that this is New York and one must often times fend for themselves, but has anyone heard of the buddy system?  I'm not sure if this is a stretch seeing as how the area is not that riddled with crime, but I've heard it's also a great way to keep the standards of the community up but most of all to offer peace of mind...In the meantime I think I will venture out and see what the area is like at night, just to get a personal feel.  thanks for the advice...


 

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