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Westway Motor Inn-Homeless Shelter
« on: July 30, 2014, 10:16:00 AM »
I couldn't find a recent discussion of this topic here, so I thought I should post something about it. While the shelter isn't in Astoria proper, it is very close by and will certainly affect Astoria. BTW, I'm not looking to debate the issue...just want to share the info.

http://astoriapost.com/2014/07/24/residents-want-homeless-shelter-gone-expressed-concerns-about-crime-and-schools/

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Re: Westway Motor Inn-Homeless Shelter
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2014, 10:18:36 AM »
I'm baffled. If this place was NOT a homeless shelter, it is then a place for hourly stays for adultery and prostitution. But people have a problem with homeless people having a place to live instead? Seems backwards to me.
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Re: Westway Motor Inn-Homeless Shelter
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2014, 11:04:49 AM »
I'm baffled. If this place was NOT a homeless shelter, it is then a place for hourly stays for adultery and prostitution. But people have a problem with homeless people having a place to live instead? Seems backwards to me.

I agree.

But I think that if we promote prostitution and adultery in the homeless population we can have the cake and eat it too (a not too subtle euphemism I might add).

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Re: Westway Motor Inn-Homeless Shelter
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2014, 11:09:05 AM »
One of the differences may be that the prostitutes weren't long-term residents sending their kids to already crowded schools. Not that the homeless residents are the same as prostitutes....just following the previous comparison.

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Re: Westway Motor Inn-Homeless Shelter
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2014, 12:00:53 PM »
They don't say Westway is the best way for nuthin'.


This is a very, very on-going situation. This motel has been used as a temporary homeless shelter on and off for many years and before that it used to as a temporary shelter for people awaiting deportation.


Why it's become so contentious now is that the city has been opening 'permanent' homeless shelters throughout the city without consulting the community or local elected officials. Another shelter was established at the Pan Am hotel on Queens Blvd in Elmhurst, though the city said this would not happen.


In 2012 residents were able to stop the shelter from becoming permanent, though it is my understanding that the Westway stilled housed some homeless residents on a temporary overnight basis since.


It's mostly NIMBYism but also, I think the main objection is that the city warehouses homeless families with complex needs and offers little to no support and it's the local residents who have to deal with any problems that arise. Supposedly the Westway shelter will be run by an organization called Women in Need, so maybe it won't be the case in this instance. 


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Re: Westway Motor Inn-Homeless Shelter
« Reply #5 on: July 31, 2014, 05:31:21 PM »
I realize this is a very complicated issue, but I can't be against mothers and young children having a roof over their head at night.  I hope as a community we can find a way to make this work and support them, so that this is a transition to something better.
 
Surely it's in everyone's best interest if this shelter is able to provide a stable, supportive environment for the young children rather than having them out on the street.   

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Re: Westway Motor Inn-Homeless Shelter
« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2014, 08:35:44 AM »
At the end of the day, I would have no problem showing up and protesting FOR the existence of the shelter.


Maybe we can start our own petition?
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Re: Westway Motor Inn-Homeless Shelter
« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2014, 10:34:31 AM »
This was the scene in Elmhurst a few weeks ago :  http://gothamist.com/2014/07/01/protesters_jeer_at_homeless_familie_1.php

Instead of teaching their kids compassion, they'd rather teach them hate.  I get its a complicated issue but this behavior makes me sick.

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Re: Westway Motor Inn-Homeless Shelter
« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2014, 12:24:17 PM »
At the end of the day, I would have no problem showing up and protesting FOR the existence of the shelter.
Maybe we can start our own petition?




I agree and have no problem supporting the family shelter either, both in person and via petition. I also might go a step further by volunteering and welcoming these families to the neighborhood.  A family is a stable unit and parents, by and large, want the best for their kids - that includes a roof over their head and stability before finding permanent home.


Just FYI - there's a volunteer orientation at Women In Need on Thursday August 8th:
http://winnyc.org/get-involved-with-win/become-a-volunteer-at-win/getinvolvedvolunteer/
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Re: Westway Motor Inn-Homeless Shelter
« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2014, 02:28:02 PM »
A bit of a bright spot in an otherwise sad and embarrassing situation. Did you know that Queens has the second least number of homeless shelters in the 5 boroughs? Only Staten Island has less than Queens.


http://www.qchron.com/editions/central/residents-host-bbq-for-pan-am-families/article_83f0501b-2a45-5669-a34f-f5add297237c.html

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Re: Westway Motor Inn-Homeless Shelter
« Reply #10 on: August 01, 2014, 03:22:53 PM »

Here is more info on the Elmhurst/Pan Am shelter protests:  http://www.timesledger.com/stories/2014/30/panamprotest_tl_2014_07_25_q.html

The Westway shelter is a done deal and will be very profitable (see below). It currently houses 67 families with 129 children. They are now renovating the remainder of the rooms to eventually provide long-term housing for 121 families (men, women & children). With the contracts in place, it does not seem to be in any danger of closing.

http://www.qchron.com/editions/central/homeless-shelters-prove-profitable/article_b152d38c-363c-51e0-857e-06ecc9e106d8.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/09/nyregion/for-some-landlords-real-money-in-the-homeless.html?pagewanted=all

This article discusses changes made to the motel 6 years ago.
http://www.qchron.com/editions/western/astoria-residents-updated-by-westway-motel-owner/article_ccb19adc-7952-519c-972e-7b6eb43d0540.html

Some of motel's owners are mentioned in this article.
http://brie.hunter.cuny.edu/hpe/2014/03/05/new-landlord-worries-faile-street-tenants/


Brooklyn residents have also protested new shelters in their neighborhoods.
http://www.canarsiecourier.com/news/2013-09-19/Other_News/Protesters_Want_Answers_For_Shelter_Construction.html
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/brooklyn-politicians-community-groups-protest-plan-sprawling-homeless-shelter-article-1.1798993


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Re: Westway Motor Inn-Homeless Shelter
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2014, 03:22:56 PM »
A bit of a bright spot in an otherwise sad and embarrassing situation. Did you know that Queens has the second least number of homeless shelters in the 5 boroughs? Only Staten Island has less than Queens.


http://www.qchron.com/editions/central/residents-host-bbq-for-pan-am-families/article_83f0501b-2a45-5669-a34f-f5add297237c.html


Not sure how that's a bright spot exactly. That doesn't necessarily mean that we have fewer homeless people. Or it could be that the homeless people we have are not being accommodated.
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Re: Westway Motor Inn-Homeless Shelter
« Reply #13 on: November 08, 2014, 12:14:49 AM »
Unfortunately, these families, many of whom have ended up in the shelter after being displaced due to tragic circumstances (like fire, or domestic violence) have found themselves unwelcome in the neighborhood and targeted by police. The majority of these families are minorities -- African-American, or Hispanic -- and are typically targets of police, but in a neighborhood that is predominately white, these families are easy to identify in the community and are unfairly being harassed by police. It seems like they're just looking for statistics to say "look, the shelter has brought with it an uptick in crime" so they can argue that it should be closed.


People agree with providing help for women, children, and families in need until it becomes a NIMBY situation.

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Re: Westway Motor Inn-Homeless Shelter
« Reply #14 on: November 10, 2014, 07:34:05 AM »
I don't think this is a race issue, but instead one of compassion that we see among NIMBYs every step of the way. It's embarrassing.
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