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Maloney v Reshma
« on: August 25, 2010, 02:22:27 PM »
http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/08/24/2010-08-24_east_side_pol_rivals_go_for_jugular_over_whos_more_vocal_supporter.html

Noticed last week that Reshma opened up a campaign office on 30th Avenue.  Dropped in an picked up some position papers, the staff was friendly, but I learned nothing that would sway me one way or the other.

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Re: Maloney v Reshma
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2010, 03:59:25 PM »
I've met both Carolyn Maloney and Reshma Saujani. Both women are smart, creative individuals and I support primaries on principle--especially when the general election is essentially uncontested. But I'm a strong Maloney supporter. Reshma Saujani hasn't given a single instance where she would've voted differently than the Congresswoman. Why give up somebody with a strong leadership position in the House (the Congresswoman is Chair of the Joint Economic Committee) for an untried, untested novice who can't even point out why she's a better choice? Her campaign has also been relentlessly negative and more than a little fact-challenged. And finally, Saujani's resume is devoid of any public service--instead she's spent her time bouncing from one predatory banking firm to another.

Maloney, in contrast, has given us a long list of legislative achievements. Not least of which is her consumer protection bill that restricts predatory abuses by credit card companies.

The Village Voice has an article that thoroughly trashes Saujani with her own career and record. I'd feel bad about it, except Saujani has spent so much of the campaign attacking Congresswoman Maloney that she deserves a taste of her own medicine. And at least the article is being honest, which is more than I can say about Saujani's negative mailers. Here it is: http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/archives/2010/08/reshma_saujanis.php
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Re: Maloney v Reshma
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2010, 09:24:05 PM »
Maloney is okay, but I'm still holding a grudge when she sided with the big insurance companies and spoke out vehemently against any public option for the health care reform. Reshma seems to be more of small business advocate, but that may just be her campaign platform to get votes.

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Re: Maloney v Reshma
« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2010, 02:53:36 PM »
I agree it is good that Democrats would have a choice. However, Maloney and Reshma should both honor attending debates for voters.

There seems to be little argument why an incumbent should be turned out by a Democrat. Only makes sense if there were a suspicion of corruption and not much reports of such in this district. And if the House will have a GOP speaker, Maloney is a stronger contrasting voice.


I've met both Carolyn Maloney and Reshma Saujani. Both women are smart, creative individuals and I support primaries on principle--especially when the general election is essentially uncontested. But I'm a strong Maloney supporter. Reshma Saujani hasn't given a single instance where she would've voted differently than the Congresswoman. Why give up somebody with a strong leadership position in the House (the Congresswoman is Chair of the Joint Economic Committee) for an untried, untested novice
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Re: Maloney v Reshma
« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2010, 11:04:05 AM »
Maloney is okay, but I'm still holding a grudge when she sided with the big insurance companies and spoke out vehemently against any public option for the health care reform. Reshma seems to be more of small business advocate, but that may just be her campaign platform to get votes.

Public option means more debt, if you want the public option you are just as un American as terrorists are because you then support plunging America into debt and financial ruin. Think about this, more taxes, more business moves out, less jobs, and WORSE economy. We cannot afford the European lifestyle, WE are the ones holding that lifestyle up for the Europeans.

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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2010, 11:24:24 AM »
Clearview, lumping public option advocates together with terrorists is absolutely disgusting and thoroughly beyond the pale. Your words damn themselves with their histrionic and offensive overreach. Moreover, your point is nonsense on its face--public spending is all that kept this economy afloat as consumer demand evaporated. Your regressive idiocy would drag us back to the age of robber barons and debtors prisons. You have the audacity to slap the weary epithet "un-American" on those of us who want to secure the foundation of our economy by protecting the middle class while you advocate policies that would dismantle the very civil society that makes us great.

I will thank the voters for sending Carolyn Maloney back for another term to combat exactly this sort of nonsense. Despite AlexNYC's recollection, Maloney actually supported a public option and only conceded that fight to win the larger battle of meaningful healthcare reform.
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Re: Maloney v Reshma
« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2010, 11:39:43 AM »
Public option means more debt, if you want the public option you are just as un American as terrorists are because you then support plunging America into debt and financial ruin. Think about this, more taxes, more business moves out, less jobs, and WORSE economy. We cannot afford the European lifestyle, WE are the ones holding that lifestyle up for the Europeans.

Well, I am no fan of progressives, but I would hardly lump them in with the nice people who fly airplanes into buildings and conduct suicide bomb attacks on civilians.  Let us have a little perspective here, though I agree with you on saying "no" to the public option.

I do so not because we cannot afford it.  We can, just like we can afford the post office, amtrac, the social security administration, the VA etc etc etc-and we will receive the same outstanding level of government service and flexibility one has come to expect from the aforementioned organizations.  This seems an odd justification for running all the private entities currently providing health insurance out of business.
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2010, 02:06:56 PM »
Well, I am no fan of progressives, but I would hardly lump them in with the nice people who fly airplanes into buildings and conduct suicide bomb attacks on civilians.  Let us have a little perspective here, though I agree with you on saying "no" to the public option.

I do so not because we cannot afford it.  We can, just like we can afford the post office, amtrac, the social security administration, the VA etc etc etc-and we will receive the same outstanding level of government service and flexibility one has come to expect from the aforementioned organizations.  This seems an odd justification for running all the private entities currently providing health insurance out of business.

I don't happen to agree with you, but very well said!

And thanks everyone who's contributing to the original content of this thread. Maloney's not my favorite local pol, but not by any means my least favorite, and I have been and remain quite undecided about this primary...

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Re: Maloney v Reshma
« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2010, 07:30:19 PM »
Clearview, lumping public option advocates together with terrorists is absolutely disgusting and thoroughly beyond the pale. Your words damn themselves with their histrionic and offensive overreach. Moreover, your point is nonsense on its face--public spending is all that kept this economy afloat as consumer demand evaporated. Your regressive idiocy would drag us back to the age of robber barons and debtors prisons. You have the audacity to slap the weary epithet "un-American" on those of us who want to secure the foundation of our economy by protecting the middle class while you advocate policies that would dismantle the very civil society that makes us great.

I will thank the voters for sending Carolyn Maloney back for another term to combat exactly this sort of nonsense. Despite AlexNYC's recollection, Maloney actually supported a public option and only conceded that fight to win the larger battle of meaningful healthcare reform.
But lumping the public option with terrorists is the truth. There is not enough public spending to go around for everybody. You could also see it as too much public spending is like drinking too much alcohol, but a little is good, especially my pension for working with Steinway Transit.

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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2010, 01:53:34 PM »
But lumping the public option with terrorists is the truth. There is not enough public spending to go around for everybody. You could also see it as too much public spending is like drinking too much alcohol, but a little is good, especially my pension for working with Steinway Transit.

There does not have to be enough public spending to go around for everybody.  All one needs is enough public spending to buy enough votes to win re-election.  How does anyone living in a city that has been governed by political machines since the 19th century not understand this?

(Sure, they call themselves "Democrats" and "Progressives" now.  They used to call themselves "Republicans.")
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Re: Maloney v Reshma
« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2010, 02:41:52 PM »

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gaW6v0XYL7DHK2MQaxPA6A7OOK8AD9HU1QC81

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New York Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney is in the middle of a campaign to keep her job. Hear Maloney and her challenger, Reshma Saujani, discuss their Democratic primary election bids. Plus ...

I just cant imagine there are that many Wall Street Democrats who would vote in the primary. More interesting if there are new Democrats that find resonance.
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Re: Maloney v Reshma
« Reply #11 on: August 31, 2010, 03:19:48 PM »
There does not have to be enough public spending to go around for everybody.  All one needs is enough public spending to buy enough votes to win re-election.  How does anyone living in a city that has been governed by political machines since the 19th century not understand this?

(Sure, they call themselves "Democrats" and "Progressives" now.  They used to call themselves "Republicans.")
Actually this City has been governed by political machines since the 18th Century. Thanks for realizing that there is not enough public spending to go around.

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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2010, 05:17:36 PM »
Apparently there's a Republican in this race, Dino LaVerghetta.  Check out this press release:

New York, New York- Today, Dino LaVerghetta, the Republican-endorsed candidate for Congress in New York's 14th Congressional District, condemned Carolyn Maloney for her ties to the Socialist Party.  Last week, the Democratic Socialists of America ("DSA") revealed that seventy U.S. Congress Members belong to their caucus.  The DSA proclaims to be the largest Socialist organization in the United States.  According to their website, DSA members openly "reject an international economic order sustained by private profit."   Among the Congress Members listed was New York's own Carolyn Maloney.

Dino criticized Maloney for her Socialist ties.  He stated that her adherence to the DSA's beliefs makes her unfit to represent a District sustained by the financial industry.  Mr. LaVerghetta stated:

Carolyn Maloney's membership in the Socialist Party is simultaneously shocking and wholly unsurprising.  It has long been known in political circles that Maloney is bored by economics and confused by finance.  Her membership in an organization that openly rejects the notion of private profit, however, proves that Carolyn Maloney actually has contempt for the free market system that made this country great.  Carolyn Maloney represents the financial center of the universe, yet she apparently opposes our free-market capitalist system.  Don't the People of our District deserve a Representative that believes their work has value?  Shouldn't their voice in Washington be one that speaks up for their interests rather than one that vehemently opposes them?

In truth, however, we should have seen this coming.  When asked to choose between putting her trust in government or the individual, Carolyn Maloney has chosen the government every time.  This is someone who has vocally opposed making the 2003 tax cuts permanent, proposed taxing Wall Street bonuses at 100%, voted for wasteful government stimulus packages, voted for the disastrous Obamacare legislation, and voted for the stifling financial regulations recently passed by Congress.

Disturbingly, Carolyn Maloney is the Chair of the Joint Economics Committee.  This is a job she has never taken seriously.  For example, instead of appointing an expert as the Committee's General Counsel, she appointed her election lawyer, Andrew Tulloch.  I guess we shouldn't expect anything more from a card-carrying member of the DSA.  Why should she take her role on the Joint Economic Committee seriously when she thinks our economic system is a joke?


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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2010, 06:57:10 PM »
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New York, New York- Today, Dino LaVerghetta, the Republican-endorsed candidate for Congress in New York's 14th Congressional District, condemned Carolyn Maloney for her ties to the Socialist Party.  Last week, the Democratic Socialists of America ("DSA") revealed that seventy U.S. Congress Members belong to their caucus.  The DSA proclaims to be the largest Socialist organization in the United States.  According to their website, DSA members openly "reject an international economic order sustained by private profit."   Among the Congress Members listed was New York's own Carolyn Maloney.

I would be more surprised to find out the Representative for this district was not a socialist.  It sort of goes with the territory here. 
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Re: Maloney v Reshma (v Dino)
« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2010, 11:25:04 PM »
Apparently there's a Republican in this race, Dino LaVerghetta.  Check out this press release:

New York, New York- Today, Dino LaVerghetta, the Republican-endorsed candidate for Congress in New York's 14th Congressional District, condemned Carolyn Maloney for her ties to the Socialist Party.  Last week, the Democratic Socialists of America ("DSA") revealed that seventy U.S. Congress Members belong to their caucus.  The DSA proclaims to be the largest Socialist organization in the United States.  According to their website, DSA members openly "reject an international economic order sustained by private profit."   Among the Congress Members listed was New York's own Carolyn Maloney.

What? If you go to the DSA web site, there are no press releases about any "caucus" (there's exactly one avowed socialist on the Hill - Senator Bernie Sanders!), and if you search their site for "Maloney" you get nothing relevant. Good job spreading false rumors, buddy!

(FWIW, the Democratic Socialists are along the lines of the liberal parties in Europe. The Green Party in the US is sorta similar... We're not talking Bolsheviks here!)


 

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