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« on: April 09, 2010, 04:37:40 PM »

Queens Libertarians most often gather at a meeting room at Bohemian Hall. The Brooklyn Chair will join them this Saturday for one of the regular, and open to the public, meetings. He has helped many candidates with ballot access over the years.


Bohemian Hall 
29-19 24th Avenue

Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 11:00 a.m. SHARP
Independent Nominating Petition process

He will speak about challenges that can be filed and how to defend against those challenges.
Sample petitions and cover sheets will be handed out.

http://ny.lp.org/

I am encouraged that SI now has a libertarian chapter. Hopefully some year soon one will be in place in the Bronx.

http://serfcity.wordpress.com/2010/03/27/staten-island-finally-secedes/
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Re: LPNY 2010
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2010, 02:08:17 PM »
Are the buffalo wings czech? In anycase, they are okay.

Heard mention that the NYC charter commission will be meeting again soon.

Monday, April 19
LaGuardia Community College, Auditorium, 31-10 Thomson Avenue,
Long Island City, NY 11101
6pm

http://www.nyc.gov/html/charter/html/home/home.shtml


I think it would be silly and ironic to consider again term limits after the last election. They may want to revisit  mayoral succession and if there is a need for public advocate. If the advocate office remains, it should have more autonomy from the mayor's office.

When was the last time there was a vacancy of the mayor's office?


For the LP, it looks like John Clifton of Queens may run again for US Senate.
We may have a statewide candidate for attorney general. They may have a candidate for Assembly in another district.


How many signatures do the Dems and GOP require?

For independents like Libertarian, Green, etc, it apprears that the min signatures needed is 3000 for NY Senate. Others would collect theirs sooner, but indie candidates look to be starting this year July 9.
Thank you to all those who help give us more choices this election, to have more reason to vote on election day.

Much appreciated.
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Surprised to hear one libertarian may be working with the Census. Consider your questions.

http://2010.census.gov/2010census/

Natl participation rate is currently about 65% lagging some great lake states.
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Re: LPNY 2010
« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2010, 10:01:20 PM »

I dont know if anyone agrees with a candidate 100 percent of the time. A few areas of special interest



Stop Wasting Money
Public Pay and Pension Caps
Eliminate Departments and Functions
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Fewer Taxes: New Yorkers Face Too Many Taxes

Real Tort Reform Will Reduce Insurance Costs
Second Amendment: Right to Carry
Eminent Domain: Stop the Abuse
Traffic Enforcement: Safety Over Revenue
Drug Policy Reform Can Help Cut Spending

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Immediate pull out of Afghanistan, Iraq, Colombia ...

End Drug War at home and abroad [End prohibition]
Repeal Patriot Act
Abolish Mandatory Minimum Sentencing

Constitutional amendment abolishing death penalty
Ban on racial profiling
Promotion of jury nullification
National ban on private prisons


Ban on torture and rendition

Clemency for all immigrants, Closing of ICE units
Stiff penalties for prosecutors who suborn perjury
Repeal Gatt and Nafta
...
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Re: LPNY 2010
« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2010, 10:08:56 PM »

In a few weeks, Libertarians will have a new national Chair, and I am curious to see what direction that might mean for the party.

Here, the LPNY has an endorsed slate of candidates that will petition this summer again for ballot access.
It may not be certain but the expected Dem and GOP candidates would be Cuomo & Lazio. The IP, CP, and WFP would follow those leads.

I certainly hope and expect there will be more than the 2 choices. If looking at the main parties, likely would be considering the AG and Comptroller races.

NY Libertarian statewide slate


Governor: Warren Redlich
Lt. Governor: Alden Link

Senate (Gillibrand): John Clifton
Senate (Schumer): Randy Credico

Comptroller: John Gaetani
Attorney General: Carl Person



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FloW June 03 Re: NY 2010
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2010, 01:37:50 PM »

this is the periphery of politics

http://www.flowidealism.org/index-project.html

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http://www.juntosociety.com/about.html

Michael Strong

Thursday, June 3, 2010
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* The meeting begins at ABOUT 7:30pm with
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* The featured speaker is introduced at ABOUT 8:00pm.
* The meeting will continue to ABOUT 10:00pm.

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    The book includes articles by John Mackey CEO of Whole Foods Market,
by Hernando de Soto author of "The Mystery of Capital" and
by Muhammad Yunus founder of Grameen Bank. 
    Michael, is co-founder of FLOW, Freedom Lights Our World,
with John Mackey, a non-profit devoted to promoting entrepreneurial solutions to world problems, along with
Conscious Capitalism, devoted to promoting a new species of and new brand for capitalism:
He's working on several Free City projects around the world.


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Re: LPNY 2010
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2010, 08:44:49 PM »




Immediate pull out of Afghanistan, Iraq, Colombia ...

End Drug War at home and abroad [End prohibition]
Repeal Patriot Act
Abolish Mandatory Minimum Sentencing

Constitutional amendment abolishing death penalty
Ban on racial profiling
Promotion of jury nullification
National ban on private prisons


Ban on torture and rendition

Clemency for all immigrants, Closing of ICE units
Stiff penalties for prosecutors who suborn perjury
Repeal Gatt and Nafta
...

Who's platform is this TRX? I agree with just about everything here.......Not sure what Promotion of Jury nullification means though?
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Re: LPNY 2010
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2010, 08:56:33 PM »


http://www.facebook.com/pages/Randy-Credico/213891628419

He goes further than that.
The cherry is he supports all 10 amendments of the Bill of Rights.

http://www.isil.org/resources/lit/history-jury-null.html

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The power of the jury to judge the justice of the law and to hold laws invalid by a finding of "not guilty" for any law a juror felt was unjust or oppressive, dates back to the Magna Carta, in 1215

I believe he wants juries to be fully aware of their position in the court.

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Re: LPNY 2010
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2010, 11:24:27 AM »
TRX, when's the next LP meeting at the Bohemian Beer Garden?

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June/ July 10 Re: LPNY 2010
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2010, 12:25:17 PM »


Simply, the Queens Libertarians usually meet at Bohemian, a meeting room, the 2nd Saturday of the month at 11am.
Depending on the date and topic, I sometimes make it, but somewhat rarely.

I do think the discussions are views that most voters rarely hear. I like to hear more about current issues and action items.
My applause for those who work with the NYCLU, those who are challenging first amendment restrictions, and other issues.

It may be interesting to attend in July, for the speaker and because then is a period of independent petitioning. For reminders.
[Voters, do not sign multiple petitions for the same office. Depending on main Party R/D decisions and candidates, there could be a number of independent petitioners in 2010, and keep in mind as well that the Green Party will have independent candidates and seek a return to major party status.]

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On Saturday, July 10, 2010 at 11:00 a.m. SHARP, Paul Garrin, the founder of NAME.SPACE & WiFi-NY (http://wifiny.net)..., will discuss Net Neutrality & The Loss of 4th Amendment Rights at the General Membership Meeting of the Libertarian Party of Queens County. This event will take place at Bohemian Hall at 29-19 24th Avenue in Astoria

Paul Garrin is in favor of Net Neutrality as a competitive market practice and good business, but he is against any new specific legislation or regulation


Link worth a look if interesting -
http://pg.mediafilter.org/

For broader internet issues

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At times, topics are more historical, where current relevancy may be more of a stretch. Say, at the end of the 1700s the KY & VA Resolutions, which may be better known to a few residents there.
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Queens 14? Re: LPNY 2010
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2010, 10:29:48 AM »

The LP may consider endorsing a Republican challenger against Maloney. If you have any familiarity with the GOP candidates ??   :?, I would greatly welcome your thoughts. More often now, the Queens LP looks at cross endorsing. I would prefer that they look carefully at the candidates and generally withhold endorsements. But quite a few are very disturbed with the incumbents in DC.

I take it many of the NY and especially younger GOP are more freedom oriented.
I would find it interesting if the soft L Queens endorsed where the harder L Manhattan might not.
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Re: LPNY 2010
« Reply #10 on: June 05, 2010, 02:49:31 PM »

It appears Dino is the presumed GOP candidate. I expect that at least he would be petitioning. He is expected to meet with some Party activists Sunday in Manhattan.

Libertarians in Manhattan will meet June 14 and perhaps they too will consider Dino among others and decide whether to support and endorse for CD14.
I know at least some have meaningful disagreements with the the candidate's platform.

Often, the GOP is more tolerant of federal intervention and spending.

http://www.dinoforcongress.com/Campaignnews.html

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July Re: LPNY 2010
« Reply #11 on: July 03, 2010, 09:48:03 PM »

'Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it'


I know many have already been active in the process of democracy. I like to say petitioning season begins soon. For those without NYS party recognition.
This election may be a more curious one for me, with perhaps more candidates to consider.
I think it is great to have another candidate for governor. My wish though is that while the LP may be improving across the country, I do not see that improvement much here in NY state. May that change. More on that later.


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July 12th, 2010: Drug War Update with Doug Greene of Empire State NORML & Cures not Wars

Greene has long been active. It may be that NY will accept marijuana for patients.
It seems many do not understand the seriousness ( sure not all are), but you might see it in a different light when you find patients dealing with the question.


On Saturday, July 10, 2010 , Paul Garrin, the founder of NAME.SPACE & WiFi-NY , will discuss Net Neutrality & The Loss of 4th Amendment Rights
Bohemian Hall



In late August, NY Libertarians have an annual bbq picnic. In Nassau county. Hope to make it this year again. If anyone might be interested, PM to me at your leisure.

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Re: LPNY 2010
« Reply #12 on: July 04, 2010, 12:09:28 PM »
Libertarians lose me on the immediate  pull out from everywhere, it would create a  dangerous  vacum. Also, clememcy for all illegals and closing down ICE? Patriot Act also has lots of merit. Why not just erase all borders, unlock  all doors and leave the keys  to my car in and the engine running with a welcome sign?  :lol:  Seriously, this is why they lose alot of people, cause these points....

Stop Wasting Money
Public Pay and Pension Caps
Eliminate Departments and Functions
Say on Pay for Voters on Politician Raises
Fewer Taxes: New Yorkers Face Too Many Taxes

Real Tort Reform Will Reduce Insurance Costs
Second Amendment: Right to Carry
Eminent Domain: Stop the Abuse
Traffic Enforcement: Safety Over Revenue
Drug Policy Reform Can Help Cut Spending

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Re: LPNY 2010
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2010, 07:42:27 AM »
Thanks FZ. I appreciate that.
Would like to see more welcome signs. I take it taking your car for a ride is out of the question.

More seriously, immigration is a complicated issue with tensions for all parties including the LP. My view is that a party supporting individuals and the smallest minorities should be advancing increased immigration rights. Congress still has much work that they seem to be avoiding (perhaps understandably).

I would suggest that voters should consider the offices considered, whether federal, state, or local. I can more easily advocate forward positions for a body like Council, Assembly, or Congress where there are debates for and against. It is more tricky for someone running for President or an executive office.

Not all candidates will agree. I am pleased to see a strong message from the LP.
(While the RNC and Steele need to sort out their messages)


http://www.lp.org/blogs/staff/lp-monday-message-10-reasons-to-end-the-wars-now

1. American military and contractor casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan.

2. Iraqi and Afghanistan civilian and military casualties.

3. These wars are a tremendous waste of taxpayer money in a time of extreme deficits, high unemployment and a falling stock market.

4. Invading and occupying Afghanistan and Iraq feeds terrorism.

5. Osama Bin Laden and his co-conspirators who attacked the World Trade Center were Saudi Arabian.

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Re: LPNY 2010
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2010, 09:57:52 AM »


http://www.lp.org/blogs/staff/lp-monday-message-10-reasons-to-end-the-wars-now

1. American military and contractor casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan.

And yet, even before the recent economic crash, re-enlistment rates in theater were quite high..higher even then among non-deployers, IIRC.  If the people actually at risk willingly sign up to expose themselves to more risk, is that not indicative that maybe they think the mission is worth hazarding their own lives?  How much weight do we give that in our calculations?

2. Iraqi and Afghanistan civilian and military casualties.

It would be interesting to compare the numbers of civilians killed or wounded annually due to ongoing U.S. military operations with those executed or abused annually under the previous regimes, methinks.

3. These wars are a tremendous waste of taxpayer money in a time of extreme deficits, high unemployment and a falling stock market.

Is this a situational ethics kind of thing?  Would it be ok to waste taxpayer money if we had a balanced budget, full employment and rising stock market?

4. Invading and occupying Afghanistan and Iraq feeds terrorism.

Oddly enough, item 5 on the list occurred before we did anything along the lines of item 4.

5. Osama Bin Laden and his co-conspirators who attacked the World Trade Center were Saudi Arabian.

Adolf Hitler was Austrian,  Josef Stalin was Georgian.  Non-sequitur, you say?  Irrelevant, you say?  I agree, just like item 5.  Unless I am misreading it and the LP fully supports war with Saudi Arabia...or something. 

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Re: LPNY 2010
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2010, 05:26:42 PM »

Reasonableness, and a sense of humor. That is a mighty combination.
And doesnt it always come down to AH.

QMC, if you havent said elsewhere, have you served in the military? Overseas? Thanks.

I think you are quite wrong in the case of 4. But 3 was the most interesting response.
5 was a bit silly, it probably goes more to what is the war and where is it, how do you determine if the strategy is making progress
What is the longest war in American history?


Yes, we know personally members of the military who have asked to return to the war theater time and time again.
However, I believe many would love to have a strong defense and the return of our troops.

If you believe we need to have our military over there year in and year out, there are expected choices on the ballot.


Whatever your views, would you agree that voters deserve a choice? Should we not have candidates asking whether our efforts are truly in the national interest?
 If the only choice is an R and a D, then wouldnt that mean the troops remain overseas no matter. [Maybe in different numbers]
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July 11am and Noon Re: LPNY 2010
« Reply #16 on: July 10, 2010, 06:59:09 AM »

'Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it'


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July 12th, 2010: Drug War Update with Doug Greene of Empire State NORML & Cures not Wars


On Saturday, July 10, 2010 , Paul Garrin, the founder of NAME.SPACE & WiFi-NY , will discuss Net Neutrality & The Loss of 4th Amendment Rights
Bohemian Hall


LBTs should be at the Bohemian meeting room at 11. This is one of the rare occasions where I hope to find them as well. Then perhaps a drink at Bohemian soon after around 12 or 12:30. There is yet another world cup game today, so maybe there will be crowds in the afternoon. If it is a bit crowded, might pop over to Sparrow then.
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Sept Re: LPNY 2010
« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2010, 11:38:12 AM »

I am surprised that Manhattan would not have yet a presentation scheduled for Sept. 14. And I am usually more hesitant with the Queens announcements lately, but will post anyway.
 Ripped from the headlines.  It falls this month on Sept. 11. [And I expect to miss the event.]

Bohemian Hall
11am [Downstairs bar/restaurant area]
Who Is The Enemy In America's War On Terror?


I am looking forward and hope to find worthy a trans-partisan fee event. One sponsor is the MLP.
Liberty Festival Sept 18
Doors open from 3pm Social Bar, NY

http://www.socialbarnyc.com/


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A secondary goal of the Foundation is to create a network of advocacy on 9/11 healthcare issues.

Hope to find out how late the Liberty festival plans to run.
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Re: LPNY 2010
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2010, 01:18:24 PM »
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Checks, payable to Redlich for Governor, can be mailed to:

Redlich for Governor
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Suite 108
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You may be upset by this, but the maximum contribution is $55,900. Andrew Cuomo has received 30 contributions of $50,000 or more.

Of course our expectations are much lower. The largest contribution so far was $1000, and we have received contributions as small as $10. Any contribution is appreciated.

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*Eminent Domain: Stop the Abuse
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Re: LPNY 2010
« Reply #19 on: January 12, 2011, 07:57:09 AM »

so close and yet so far

Interesting timing again for an annual fundraiser

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Re: LPNY 2010
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2011, 12:26:46 AM »
Hey TRX,

What's the word on the Queens leadership?  Been wanting to come out to a meeting but forget to put in on my calendar.  Perhaps in March.

I saw a blogpost somewhere saying that Tom Stevens and John Procida, who are listed on the website as contacts for the Queens Chapter, were kicked out.  But, it didn't say why?

Any insight?


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2011 Re: LPNY
« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2011, 07:47:31 AM »

I'd like to hear sometime about nugget life.

The NY LP still has fewer than 3000 enrolled voters last report, and election records did not show the 50K meaningful votes. So the protest efforts continue as usual.

Not being a primary party, it works like clubs. One may be a member supporting national efforts, or state efforts, or local county.
As far as I know (which is maybe not more than you), Queens Libertarians continue on as before and meet most months at Bohemian hall.
I will post if I find an event of special interest.

The NY state LBT will be meeting late April on Long Island. I would expect most of the activists there to come from LI, upstate, and Manhattan.
2011 is an off year. 2012 is a national election. I sometimes forget that Gillibrand would be running again then.
The LP meets May 2012 in Vegas.

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2011 Re: LPNY
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2011, 04:06:19 PM »
Last weekend, some of the NY Libertarians across the state convened on Long Island.
Maybe I could write more later but largely there is a great deal of continuity, and the state party is largely led by activists from LI which is not uncommon.

I enjoyed brief remarks from a newly published author, CJ Maloney. He will be speaking in Manhattan next Monday May 9. Generally dont enjoy most historic presentations. This may be about his book
Back to the Land
http://ebookstore.sony.com/ebook/c-j-maloney/back-to-the-land/_/R-400000000000000349204

http://www.amazon.com/Back-Land-Arthurdale-Economic-Planning/dp/0470610638/

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In Back to the Land, author CJ Maloney tells the true story of Arthurdale, West Virginia, a town created as a "pet project" of the Roosevelts. Designed to be (in the words of Eleanor Roosevelt) "a human experiment station", she was to create a "New American" citizen who would embrace a collectivist form of life. This book tells the story of what happened to the people resettled in Arthurdale and how the policies implemented there shaped America as we know it.

If the presentation is really of more interest, will see if he may be speaking at Bohemian soon this year.

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June 2011 NY NCAC Re:
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2011, 09:57:34 AM »
What hopefully would be a good time
June 16 in NY at the Porch 6:30pm +
 
Civil Liberties happy hour gathering
(I presume IDs will still be checked)
 
http://thefire.org/about/mission/
 
 
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« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2011, 11:16:30 AM »
This also might be interesting, but expect to miss out.
 
Todd Seavey
"Conservatism for Punks"
Can artistically-inclined people embrace
more capitalism and individualism

Thursday, June 2
Admission Free        No reservation necessary
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* The meeting begins at ABOUT 7:30pm with
    a discussion of current issues and events.
* The featured speaker is introduced at ABOUT 8:00pm.
* The meeting will continue to ABOUT 10:00pm.

General Society Library,
20 West 44th Street, bet. 5th and 6th Aves., NYC
near the Grand Central Terminal

Please note:
    Junto is not the usual sort of meeting with a long speech
followed by Q & A. Junto's invited speakers give a short
presentation and are challenged to defend their assertions.
    Discussions are intense, but polite. Participation by all
attendees is highly encouraged.
    Junto meets on the first Thursday of every month.
 
What hopefully would be a good time
June 16 in NY at the Porch 6:30pm +
 
Civil Liberties happy hour gathering
(I presume IDs will still be checked)
 
http://thefire.org/about/mission/
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« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2012, 07:57:47 AM »



What time is it?


I don't know yet what choices Astoria may have in Nov.
In NY, Monday evening has a video doc on the third party campaign effort by Nolan from 2004.
[My expectations are low, but somewhat curious]


http://manhattanlp.org/events/


NY Libertarians from around the state are meeting in April in Manhattan. That is a ticketed fundraiser.
I would like to see additional speakers of interest, and a chance to meet Carla, the new natl party director. The Jan. confab was better than expected. I especially enjoyed the presentation on TSA vs civil liberties.
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