LPNY 2010

[TRX]

Queens Libertarians most often gather at a meeting room at Bohemian Hall. The Brooklyn Chair will join them this Saturday for one of the regular, and open to the public, meetings. He has helped many candidates with ballot access over the years.


Bohemian Hall 
29-19 24th Avenue

Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 11:00 a.m. SHARP
Independent Nominating Petition process

He will speak about challenges that can be filed and how to defend against those challenges.
Sample petitions and cover sheets will be handed out.

http://ny.lp.org/

I am encouraged that SI now has a libertarian chapter. Hopefully some year soon one will be in place in the Bronx.

http://serfcity.wordpress.com/2010/03/27/staten-island-finally-secedes/

[TRX]

Are the buffalo wings czech? In anycase, they are okay.

Heard mention that the NYC charter commission will be meeting again soon.

Monday, April 19
LaGuardia Community College, Auditorium, 31-10 Thomson Avenue,
Long Island City, NY 11101
6pm

http://www.nyc.gov/html/charter/html/home/home.shtml


I think it would be silly and ironic to consider again term limits after the last election. They may want to revisit  mayoral succession and if there is a need for public advocate. If the advocate office remains, it should have more autonomy from the mayor's office.

When was the last time there was a vacancy of the mayor's office?


For the LP, it looks like John Clifton of Queens may run again for US Senate.
We may have a statewide candidate for attorney general. They may have a candidate for Assembly in another district.


How many signatures do the Dems and GOP require?

For independents like Libertarian, Green, etc, it apprears that the min signatures needed is 3000 for NY Senate. Others would collect theirs sooner, but indie candidates look to be starting this year July 9.
Thank you to all those who help give us more choices this election, to have more reason to vote on election day.

Much appreciated.
 :mrgreen:

Surprised to hear one libertarian may be working with the Census. Consider your questions.

http://2010.census.gov/2010census/

Natl participation rate is currently about 65% lagging some great lake states.

[TRX]

I dont know if anyone agrees with a candidate 100 percent of the time. A few areas of special interest



Stop Wasting Money
Public Pay and Pension Caps
Eliminate Departments and Functions
Say on Pay for Voters on Politician Raises
Fewer Taxes: New Yorkers Face Too Many Taxes

Real Tort Reform Will Reduce Insurance Costs
Second Amendment: Right to Carry
Eminent Domain: Stop the Abuse
Traffic Enforcement: Safety Over Revenue
Drug Policy Reform Can Help Cut Spending

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Immediate pull out of Afghanistan, Iraq, Colombia ...

End Drug War at home and abroad [End prohibition]
Repeal Patriot Act
Abolish Mandatory Minimum Sentencing

Constitutional amendment abolishing death penalty
Ban on racial profiling
Promotion of jury nullification
National ban on private prisons


Ban on torture and rendition

Clemency for all immigrants, Closing of ICE units
Stiff penalties for prosecutors who suborn perjury
Repeal Gatt and Nafta
...

[TRX]

In a few weeks, Libertarians will have a new national Chair, and I am curious to see what direction that might mean for the party.

Here, the LPNY has an endorsed slate of candidates that will petition this summer again for ballot access.
It may not be certain but the expected Dem and GOP candidates would be Cuomo & Lazio. The IP, CP, and WFP would follow those leads.

I certainly hope and expect there will be more than the 2 choices. If looking at the main parties, likely would be considering the AG and Comptroller races.

NY Libertarian statewide slate


Governor: Warren Redlich
Lt. Governor: Alden Link

Senate (Gillibrand): John Clifton
Senate (Schumer): Randy Credico

Comptroller: John Gaetani
Attorney General: Carl Person

[TRX]

this is the periphery of politics

http://www.flowidealism.org/index-project.html

Junto :
http://www.juntosociety.com/about.html

Michael Strong

Thursday, June 3, 2010
Admission Free     

* We'll socialize from 7:00pm.
* The meeting begins at ABOUT 7:30pm with
    a discussion of current issues and events.
* The featured speaker is introduced at ABOUT 8:00pm.
* The meeting will continue to ABOUT 10:00pm.

General Society Library
20 West 44th Street, NYC
between 5th and 6th Avenues
near the Grand Central Terminal

About Michael Strong
    He's the lead author of "Be the Solution: "
    The book includes articles by John Mackey CEO of Whole Foods Market,
by Hernando de Soto author of "The Mystery of Capital" and
by Muhammad Yunus founder of Grameen Bank. 
    Michael, is co-founder of FLOW, Freedom Lights Our World,
with John Mackey, a non-profit devoted to promoting entrepreneurial solutions to world problems, along with
Conscious Capitalism, devoted to promoting a new species of and new brand for capitalism:
He's working on several Free City projects around the world.

http://www.flowidealism.org/index-project.html

[kempsternyc]

Immediate pull out of Afghanistan, Iraq, Colombia ...

End Drug War at home and abroad [End prohibition]
Repeal Patriot Act
Abolish Mandatory Minimum Sentencing

Constitutional amendment abolishing death penalty
Ban on racial profiling
Promotion of jury nullification
National ban on private prisons


Ban on torture and rendition

Clemency for all immigrants, Closing of ICE units
Stiff penalties for prosecutors who suborn perjury
Repeal Gatt and Nafta
...

Who's platform is this TRX? I agree with just about everything here.......Not sure what Promotion of Jury nullification means though?

[TRX]

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Randy-Credico/213891628419

He goes further than that.
The cherry is he supports all 10 amendments of the Bill of Rights.

http://www.isil.org/resources/lit/history-jury-null.html

The power of the jury to judge the justice of the law and to hold laws invalid by a finding of "not guilty" for any law a juror felt was unjust or oppressive, dates back to the Magna Carta, in 1215

I believe he wants juries to be fully aware of their position in the court.

"it is not only his right, but his duty – to find the verdict according to his own best understanding, judgment, and conscience    "
- John Adams

[mangopaco]

TRX, when's the next LP meeting at the Bohemian Beer Garden?

[TRX]

Simply, the Queens Libertarians usually meet at Bohemian, a meeting room, the 2nd Saturday of the month at 11am.
Depending on the date and topic, I sometimes make it, but somewhat rarely.

I do think the discussions are views that most voters rarely hear. I like to hear more about current issues and action items.
My applause for those who work with the NYCLU, those who are challenging first amendment restrictions, and other issues.

It may be interesting to attend in July, for the speaker and because then is a period of independent petitioning. For reminders.
[Voters, do not sign multiple petitions for the same office. Depending on main Party R/D decisions and candidates, there could be a number of independent petitioners in 2010, and keep in mind as well that the Green Party will have independent candidates and seek a return to major party status.]

On Saturday, July 10, 2010 at 11:00 a.m. SHARP, Paul Garrin, the founder of NAME.SPACE & WiFi-NY (http://wifiny.net)..., will discuss Net Neutrality & The Loss of 4th Amendment Rights at the General Membership Meeting of the Libertarian Party of Queens County. This event will take place at Bohemian Hall at 29-19 24th Avenue in Astoria

Paul Garrin is in favor of Net Neutrality as a competitive market practice and good business, but he is against any new specific legislation or regulation

Link worth a look if interesting -
http://pg.mediafilter.org/

For broader internet issues

http://www.isoc-ny.org/

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_Liberty

At times, topics are more historical, where current relevancy may be more of a stretch. Say, at the end of the 1700s the KY & VA Resolutions, which may be better known to a few residents there.

[TRX]

The LP may consider endorsing a Republican challenger against Maloney. If you have any familiarity with the GOP candidates ??   :?, I would greatly welcome your thoughts. More often now, the Queens LP looks at cross endorsing. I would prefer that they look carefully at the candidates and generally withhold endorsements. But quite a few are very disturbed with the incumbents in DC.

I take it many of the NY and especially younger GOP are more freedom oriented.
I would find it interesting if the soft L Queens endorsed where the harder L Manhattan might not.

[TRX]

It appears Dino is the presumed GOP candidate. I expect that at least he would be petitioning. He is expected to meet with some Party activists Sunday in Manhattan.

Libertarians in Manhattan will meet June 14 and perhaps they too will consider Dino among others and decide whether to support and endorse for CD14.
I know at least some have meaningful disagreements with the the candidate's platform.

Often, the GOP is more tolerant of federal intervention and spending.

http://www.dinoforcongress.com/Campaignnews.html

(Tanners for Dino?)

[TRX]

'Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it'


I know many have already been active in the process of democracy. I like to say petitioning season begins soon. For those without NYS party recognition.
This election may be a more curious one for me, with perhaps more candidates to consider.
I think it is great to have another candidate for governor. My wish though is that while the LP may be improving across the country, I do not see that improvement much here in NY state. May that change. More on that later.


http://manhattanlp.org/

July 12th, 2010: Drug War Update with Doug Greene of Empire State NORML & Cures not Wars

Greene has long been active. It may be that NY will accept marijuana for patients.
It seems many do not understand the seriousness ( sure not all are), but you might see it in a different light when you find patients dealing with the question.


On Saturday, July 10, 2010 , Paul Garrin, the founder of NAME.SPACE & WiFi-NY , will discuss Net Neutrality & The Loss of 4th Amendment Rights
Bohemian Hall



In late August, NY Libertarians have an annual bbq picnic. In Nassau county. Hope to make it this year again. If anyone might be interested, PM to me at your leisure.

[FZ]

Libertarians lose me on the immediate  pull out from everywhere, it would create a  dangerous  vacum. Also, clememcy for all illegals and closing down ICE? Patriot Act also has lots of merit. Why not just erase all borders, unlock  all doors and leave the keys  to my car in and the engine running with a welcome sign?  :lol:  Seriously, this is why they lose alot of people, cause these points....

Stop Wasting Money
Public Pay and Pension Caps
Eliminate Departments and Functions
Say on Pay for Voters on Politician Raises
Fewer Taxes: New Yorkers Face Too Many Taxes

Real Tort Reform Will Reduce Insurance Costs
Second Amendment: Right to Carry
Eminent Domain: Stop the Abuse
Traffic Enforcement: Safety Over Revenue
Drug Policy Reform Can Help Cut Spending

...have  true  merit.

[TRX]

Thanks FZ. I appreciate that.
Would like to see more welcome signs. I take it taking your car for a ride is out of the question.

More seriously, immigration is a complicated issue with tensions for all parties including the LP. My view is that a party supporting individuals and the smallest minorities should be advancing increased immigration rights. Congress still has much work that they seem to be avoiding (perhaps understandably).

I would suggest that voters should consider the offices considered, whether federal, state, or local. I can more easily advocate forward positions for a body like Council, Assembly, or Congress where there are debates for and against. It is more tricky for someone running for President or an executive office.

Not all candidates will agree. I am pleased to see a strong message from the LP.
(While the RNC and Steele need to sort out their messages)


http://www.lp.org/blogs/staff/lp-monday-message-10-reasons-to-end-the-wars-now

1. American military and contractor casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan.

2. Iraqi and Afghanistan civilian and military casualties.

3. These wars are a tremendous waste of taxpayer money in a time of extreme deficits, high unemployment and a falling stock market.

4. Invading and occupying Afghanistan and Iraq feeds terrorism.

5. Osama Bin Laden and his co-conspirators who attacked the World Trade Center were Saudi Arabian.

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[QMC]

http://www.lp.org/blogs/staff/lp-monday-message-10-reasons-to-end-the-wars-now

1. American military and contractor casualties in Iraq and Afghanistan.

And yet, even before the recent economic crash, re-enlistment rates in theater were quite high..higher even then among non-deployers, IIRC.  If the people actually at risk willingly sign up to expose themselves to more risk, is that not indicative that maybe they think the mission is worth hazarding their own lives?  How much weight do we give that in our calculations?

2. Iraqi and Afghanistan civilian and military casualties.

It would be interesting to compare the numbers of civilians killed or wounded annually due to ongoing U.S. military operations with those executed or abused annually under the previous regimes, methinks.

3. These wars are a tremendous waste of taxpayer money in a time of extreme deficits, high unemployment and a falling stock market.

Is this a situational ethics kind of thing?  Would it be ok to waste taxpayer money if we had a balanced budget, full employment and rising stock market?

4. Invading and occupying Afghanistan and Iraq feeds terrorism.

Oddly enough, item 5 on the list occurred before we did anything along the lines of item 4.

5. Osama Bin Laden and his co-conspirators who attacked the World Trade Center were Saudi Arabian.

Adolf Hitler was Austrian,  Josef Stalin was Georgian.  Non-sequitur, you say?  Irrelevant, you say?  I agree, just like item 5.  Unless I am misreading it and the LP fully supports war with Saudi Arabia...or something. 

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