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Moscow Subway Blast.... London, NY Next?
« on: March 29, 2010, 09:59:04 PM »

While  we Americans are focused on health care, with brave pro-health care politicians like Weiner of  NYC saving his office  from antiacid, we would  do well to remember  the real threat, globally and in our  own nation from an ideology  that threatens us all.


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« Reply #1 on: March 30, 2010, 01:56:55 AM »
ummm...any part of the world can be subjected to a terrorist attack. It has NOTHING to do with the current debate of health care.

Do you really think that two women from Chechnya decided to blow up two subway stations in moscow because of Obamacare?

These two ladies were homegrown terrorists that have NOTHING to do with the debates occurring in our country.

IN otherwords....stop being a dumbass and scaring people like Cheney.
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Re: Moscow Subway Blast.... London, NY Next?
« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2010, 09:29:48 AM »
Yaaawn..... we know, Islamicists, terrorism, blah blah blah.... let's ignore every other issue and focus on nothing but the looming threat of everyday terrorism.  :roll:

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« Reply #3 on: March 30, 2010, 10:19:40 AM »
Wow, I hadn't thought about it this way.  I guess I'll never leave my house again, y'know, to be safe.    :roll:

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Re: Moscow Subway Blast.... London, NY Next?
« Reply #4 on: March 30, 2010, 02:29:33 PM »
ummm...any part of the world can be subjected to a terrorist attack. It has NOTHING to do with the current debate of health care.

Do you really think that two women from Chechnya decided to blow up two subway stations in moscow because of Obamacare?

These two ladies were homegrown terrorists that have NOTHING to do with the debates occurring in our country.

IN otherwords....stop being a dumbass and scaring people like Cheney.



Well, I was trying to keep  people  alert to the GLOBAL, not a local  problem of Islamic Fascism that  had arrests  in Queens fairly recently as opposed  to the manufactured  hysteria  of scaring people  about Tea Party Folks  who've done nothing. In other words, reality.

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« Reply #5 on: March 30, 2010, 03:15:50 PM »
There is no doubt that there are terrorists plotting to kill more Americans.  Health care has nothing to do with this.  We cannot simply allow everything to go by the wayside and just worry about terrorists.  There are far too many issues out there to worry about these days. 

Kids are bullying each other into committing suicide.
Our country is getting fatter and fatter and unhealthier every day.
Locally, it is getting more difficult for people to commute with the MTA cuts.
People are looking for work and not finding jobs.
Our toxic environment is killing us.
Countless other issues. 
Personally, I cannot spend any more time worrying about terrorists.

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« Reply #6 on: March 30, 2010, 03:17:46 PM »
Moscow Subway Blast.... London, NY Next?

Whew, we're safe.   I just checked, there is no London, NY.

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Re: Moscow Subway Blast.... London, NY Next?
« Reply #7 on: March 30, 2010, 03:27:23 PM »
There is no doubt that there are terrorists plotting to kill more Americans.  Health care has nothing to do with this.  We cannot simply allow everything to go by the wayside and just worry about terrorists.  There are far too many issues out there to worry about these days. 

Kids are bullying each other into committing suicide.
Our country is getting fatter and fatter and unhealthier every day.
Locally, it is getting more difficult for people to commute with the MTA cuts.
People are looking for work and not finding jobs.
Our toxic environment is killing us.
Countless other issues. 
Personally, I cannot spend any more time worrying about terrorists.

The problem is that  this is a global movement, and it's just not Americans.

I think kids have been bullying each other since Cain and  Abel. Still, kids had parents and or some adult supervison years ago and when they did wrong the neighborhood cared more than the state.


Yes, there are other problems always will be, but, when they blew a $500 Billion hole in the economy in a half hour on 9/11, killed thousands and destroyed  two of the largest buildings on earth, it's something to bare in mind and keep other problems in context.

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Re: Moscow Subway Blast.... London, NY Next?
« Reply #8 on: March 30, 2010, 03:35:53 PM »
Whew, we're safe.   I just checked, there is no London, NY.

No, but, there  is a 'New' England. :lol:

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« Reply #9 on: March 30, 2010, 03:38:03 PM »
Wow, I hadn't thought about it this way.  I guess I'll never leave my house again, y'know, to be safe.    :roll:

Yeah, we should  go to the WTC, wait it's  not there must be those  tea party folks.

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« Reply #10 on: March 30, 2010, 04:14:45 PM »
Personally, I was just thinking about how intelligence officials in this country have been doing a great job preventing attacks. They stopped Najibullah Zazi, they stopped the Christian Extremists in Michigan...

I say, KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK  :mrgreen:

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« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2010, 04:30:21 PM »
Yeah, we should  go to the WTC, wait it's  not there must be those  tea party folks.

Wow, invoking WTC references for douchey behavior... classy.  :mrgreen:

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« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2010, 04:47:29 PM »
Yeah, we should  go to the WTC, wait it's  not there must be those  tea party folks.

I must have missed this somewhere: Tell me exactly what I could have done that morning to prevent the attacks. 

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« Reply #13 on: March 30, 2010, 06:59:18 PM »
I must have missed this somewhere: Tell me exactly what I could have done that morning to prevent the attacks. 

Perhaps the question should be - what would FZ do to stop the attack.  I would like to know.  Is it:

Deport anyone who is a Muslim.
Bomb all Muslim countries.
Go around being paranoid looking for any piece of trash left behind by anyone who looks like a Muslim and call 911 because you think it's a bomb.
Racially profile anyone who looks like a Muslim (which would include me and nearly all of my family).

Please let me know how you would stop another attack.  I do not see a way to do this that is full-proof.

If this happened in Moscow, where I assume there is pretty strong surveillance, it can probably happen anywhere.

I have a cousin who has spent his life trying to convince people that there is a Zionist takeover of the world.  This has only alienated him from the family, made people think he is nuts, made people stop listening to him. 

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« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2010, 07:05:53 PM »

Well, I was trying to keep  people  alert to the GLOBAL, not a local  problem of Islamic Fascism that  had arrests  in Queens fairly recently as opposed  to the manufactured  hysteria  of scaring people  about Tea Party Folks  who've done nothing. In other words, reality.

I think the word is scaremongering.
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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2010, 07:07:07 PM »
Perhaps the question should be - what would FZ do to stop the attack.  I would like to know. 

FZ would hide in fear while watching Fox News.
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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2010, 07:29:25 PM »
A spirited discussion and/or debate is all good but PLEASE leave the name calling out of your posts.  It is against the rules of the board and serves no purpose other than to cheapen the discussion.  Thanks.

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« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2010, 07:46:45 PM »
A spirited discussion and/or debate is all good but PLEASE leave the name calling out of your posts.  It is against the rules of the board and serves no purpose other than to cheapen the discussion.  Thanks.

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Well, he started it by suggesting that we should ignore every issue but terrorism. But he doesn't admit that a plane in a building that contains federal employees is just as much as a terrorist act as what occurred on 9-11.

We should be allowed to call out his hypocrisy. 
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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2010, 07:53:50 PM »
Well, he started it by suggesting that we should ignore every issue but terrorism. But he doesn't admit that a plane in a building that contains federal employees is just as much as a terrorist act as what occurred on 9-11.

We should be allowed to call out his hypocrisy. 

Although I could have a field day with the "Well, he started it..." part of your post... :-P  I will simply say that I am extremely confident that you can call someone out as being a hypocrite, or anything else for that matter, without having to resort to calling them a "dumbass" or whatever else.

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« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2010, 08:19:03 PM »
Although I could have a field day with the "Well, he started it..." part of your post... :-P  I will simply say that I am extremely confident that you can call someone out as being a hypocrite, or anything else for that matter, without having to resort to calling them a "dumbass" or whatever else.

Oh s___.....I've been spanked by AJ.

I wonder who enjoyed it more!  :evil:

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Re: Moscow Subway Blast.... London, NY Next?
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2010, 08:20:19 PM »
I will simply say that I am extremely confident that you can call someone out as being a hypocrite, or anything else for that matter, without having to resort to calling them a "dumbass" or whatever else.
I was just wondering why it might be considered name calling if you tell a "dumbass" that they are a dumbass? Don't you have to name call someone a different name call than what they are? Or isn't it considered polite to name call an "asshole" a "dumbass"? I get very confused by the rules and how they are enforced. Seems to me that recently someone name called someone else an "asshole" and nothing happened. But I guess name calling someone a "dumbass" is different. Right?
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« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2010, 08:27:15 PM »
I was just wondering why it might be considered name calling if you tell a "dumbass" that they are a dumbass? Don't you have to name call someone a different name call than what they are? Or isn't it considered polite to name call an "asshole" a "dumbass"? I get very confused by the rules and how they are enforced. Seems to me that recently someone name called someone else an "asshole" and nothing happened. But I guess name calling someone a "dumbass" is different. Right?

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« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2010, 08:46:32 PM »
For the record, I am having a good chuckle over this entire thread.
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« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2010, 09:03:51 PM »
For the record, I am having a good chuckle over this entire thread.

Probably because you are a terrorist!  (You should have that checked out.)  :evil:


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« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2010, 10:39:35 PM »
FZ would hide in fear while watching Fox News.

FZ  fears  no one.. BTW, Here's  two folks  who agree with me it's a big threat...I guess they must be what you said  I was, Kempster.  :wink:

Obama, Sarkozy push for UN sanctions on Iran




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« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2010, 11:01:30 PM »
Well, he started it by suggesting that we should ignore every issue but terrorism. But he doesn't admit that a plane in a building that contains federal employees is just as much as a terrorist act as what occurred on 9-11.

We should be allowed to call out his hypocrisy. 

I never said any of what you just wrote.

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« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2010, 12:01:58 PM »
I never said any of what you just wrote.

You are correct. I apologize.
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« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2010, 07:29:32 PM »
FZ  fears  no one.. BTW, Here's  two folks  who agree with me it's a big threat...I guess they must be what you said  I was, Kempster.  :wink:

Obama, Sarkozy push for UN sanctions on Iran




http://netscape.compuserve.com/news/story.jsp?floc=MM-news2&sc=1151&idq=/ff/story/0001/20100330/2114590431.htm

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« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2010, 01:17:28 AM »


I won't hold my breath waiting for the apologies that are owed.


Nobody said it couldn't happen. the OP's point was that we shouldn't focus on things like reforming healthcare because the terrorists are still out there.

My point was that we shouldn't stop living.

I said, yes the threat is out there......but we can't live in fear of it.

So, no I don't apologize. Because I never said that an attack here couldn't happen. I know it can. But I'm not going to stop my life because of it.

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« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2010, 01:58:37 PM »
I seem to recall a group of Muslims who own a gas station and used binoculars to view Con Edison!  I still get my gas there and I am still waiting for the attack to happen!

I think there will be an attack but no one has responded to what we can possibly do about it.  I am going about my business every day and it does cross my mind when I get into the Midtown Tunnel that we can all be blown to bits.  Nothing I can do about it but be vigilant without being rascist or paranoid.

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« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2010, 03:26:08 PM »
exactly, it's not like these guys are tea partiers ......now those guys are the real danger   :lol:
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« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2010, 03:38:00 PM »
In 2003 I got a job Off-Broadway. I saved two of my comp tickets for the Long Island HS teacher who helped me get to that point in my career. He refused to come because he was afraid of another terrorist attack. I was upset. Please, don't let fear control you. A million different things could happen to you at any given moment, but you only life once.

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« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2010, 03:41:44 PM »
Well, FZ was right:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/04/12/2010-04-12_zazi_pals_planned_rushhour_attack_on_2_busiest_subway_stations.html

I won't hold my breath waiting for the apologies that are owed.


So we owe apologies because you're pointing out something that happened long before the OP tried to associate terrorism with healthcare reform spending? Makes sense.  :roll:

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« Reply #34 on: April 14, 2010, 10:46:23 PM »
In 2003 I got a job Off-Broadway. I saved two of my comp tickets for the Long Island HS teacher who helped me get to that point in my career. He refused to come because he was afraid of another terrorist attack. I was upset. Please, don't let fear control you. A million different things could happen to you at any given moment, but you only life once.

Great. I too haven't altered my life around town except  to be more watchful. I'm more angry than fearful. It just makes me angry that people like me are  called a  'racist' for pointing out to the socio-religious  nature of the enemy. Angry at being mischaracterised, many times on purpose, by those who spread  fear against  legitimate crticism.

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« Reply #35 on: April 14, 2010, 11:01:59 PM »
I agree with you on Iran.

OK.  :mrgreen:

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« Reply #36 on: April 14, 2010, 11:09:57 PM »
I seem to recall a group of Muslims who own a gas station and used binoculars to view Con Edison!  I still get my gas there and I am still waiting for the attack to happen!

I think there will be an attack but no one has responded to what we can possibly do about it.  I am going about my business every day and it does cross my mind when I get into the Midtown Tunnel that we can all be blown to bits.  Nothing I can do about it but be vigilant without being rascist or paranoid.

Well, It took years  to plan the 9/11  attacks after  many global attacks. The next one may be a dirty bomb. It ain't just ole 'racist??? or 'paranoid' little ole  FZ  saying this, but, President Obama, just  today. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100412/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_obama You know one nuke can do alot of damage. BTW, Pointing out the ideology, even if has a religious  component, is not  racist or even racial. One  can be of any race, color, creed and be a  Muslim, Jew, Christain or  Buddhist. In any event, these  Islamic  based terrorists are even a  bigger threat to fellow Muslims, which, they kill in droves  in those suicide  bombings in Iraq and elsewhere.

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« Reply #37 on: April 14, 2010, 11:11:36 PM »
You are correct. I apologize.

Yeah, me too, sometimes  things can get heated when talking about life and death of millions of  people.

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« Reply #38 on: April 15, 2010, 12:14:51 AM »
Yeah, me too, sometimes  things can get heated when talking about life and death of millions of  people.

oh good lord..millions?..how many people have died from terrorism as opposed to the war in Iraq that Bush lied us into?
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« Reply #39 on: April 15, 2010, 09:03:56 AM »
In any event, these  Islamic  based terrorists are even a  bigger threat to fellow Muslims, which, they kill in droves  in those suicide  bombings in Iraq and elsewhere.

So if they're such a threat to their fellow Muslims, wouldn't that just make them plain ol' "terrorists", without a necessary "Islamic" label?


 

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