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Discussion of Citywide Elections
« on: July 05, 2009, 02:04:56 AM »
With the democratic primaries coming up in a few weeks, 74 days to be exact, who does everyone support for Public Advocate, Comptroller or Mayor??


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Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2009, 03:06:22 AM »
Bill Thompson for Mayor!

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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2009, 12:12:38 PM »
I haven't done much research on the candidates yet, but is there a reason why you're supporting Bill Thompson over Tony Avella, mcdirk? In the little I've read about both of them so far, the worst thing about Avella seems to be his Julia Roberts lips (courtesy of Richard Simmons). Bill Thompson strikes me as more of a run-of-the-mill Democratic politician than Avella.

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Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2009, 12:37:38 PM »
I just found that the Queens Crapper endorses Tony Avella.  :lol:
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He seems to have the "overdevelopment" issue in his favor.

Oh, and I have to say I like that in this discussion about other candidates, I got a Bloomberg For Mayor ad from Google in the middle of the page.

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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2009, 12:44:40 PM »
I just found that the Queens Crapper endorses Tony Avella.  :lol:

Well, for me, that automatically destroys his credibility as a candidate.  I will not be voting for him because of this endorsement.

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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2009, 12:49:25 PM »
Well, why? I'm just looking for reasons on both of them.

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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2009, 02:11:03 PM »
LOL, negative nods.  :lol:

I don't consider Queens Crap to be a reputable source for anything.  I find their viewpoint to be way too narrow for my taste, and if Avella falls within their hairline POV, then he is not the candidate for me. 

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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2009, 02:27:47 PM »
I do agree that it's a hairline POV, but consider the other two candidates. Bloomberg, from their perspective, has been seen as presiding over the overdevelopment of the city, so he's automatically out. And between Thompson and Avella, Avella seems to be the only one actually concerned about irresponsible development and misuse of eminent domain. By default, Queens Crapper endorses him. I don't think it's fair to use that against him. It's not like he's going around saying "Hey! Vote for me because I won the endorsement of the Queens Crap blog!"

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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2009, 02:35:22 PM »
There may not be a viable candidate for me in this election. I'll just have to see how things go, and what I uncover in my research over the coming months.

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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2009, 02:42:21 PM »
I feel the same way, which is why I was wondering why mcdirk is already so comfortable with Thompson. It's too early for me to endorse anyone, but I'm not going to write Avella (or anyone) off just because an angry Queens real estate blog supports him. You can't always choose your fans, and at this point he needs all the free publicity he can get since the others have millions/billions more dollars to spend.

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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2009, 04:52:11 PM »
Hm, I'd prefer a Democrat to Bloomberg, but I'm not close to being sold on anybody yet.

I looked through Thompson's policy statements on his campaign page. They're OK, for the most part, except:

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Joined a coalition of State and City elected officials in opposing tolls on the East and Harlem River bridges which would create an unwieldy hardship on working families and small businesses and unfairly harm hard-working people who live in boroughs other than Manhattan.

Nice. Support rich people with cars who drive over the bridges over the poorer people who take the subway. What a nonsensical statement.

That alone will prevent me from supporting him in the primary. Bloomberg is so good on Green transportation and growth policies that I'm reluctant to vote for anyone else, although he certainly has big negatives in other areas (that I personally care less about).

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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2009, 04:55:23 PM »
I know both Tony Avella and Bill Thompson very well personally and like them both as people.  I've actually given them both money in their bids for Mayor.  I'm backing Bill for a number of reasons.  First, he's already a citywide elected official with the experience in managing city agencies - someone who could actually do the job of Mayor from day one.  Tony has managed an 8 person city council staff, and while a smart man, and someone who is against development, has actually been one of the least effective members of the city council - he tends to take the right positions, but  not play well with others, which while acceptable in an Executive position (for which he is running and for which he is much better suited than a legislative position, in which he currently serves), has made him pretty ineffective.  I worry that Tony can not raise the money to get his message out, I don't think he has a citywide base to win either the primary or the election.  Second, I trust Bill Thompson more than I do Tony or Mike - he's honest and he always works to do the right thing and achieve good results.  He works with the Mayor when he has to in order to get results  and with Speaker Quinn when he needs her help - he doesn't make his political opponents into enemies.  Hope that helps.

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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2009, 04:59:17 PM »
Hm, I'd prefer a Democrat to Bloomberg, but I'm not close to being sold on anybody yet.

I looked through Thompson's policy statements on his campaign page. They're OK, for the most part, except:

Nice. Support rich people with cars who drive over the bridges over the poorer people who take the subway. What a nonsensical statement.

That alone will prevent me from supporting him in the primary. Bloomberg is so good on Green transportation and growth policies that I'm reluctant to vote for anyone else, although he certainly has big negatives in other areas (that I personally care less about).

I personally support tolls on the East River Bridges, but working out in Eastern Queens, in a city council district in which there are no LIRR stations nor MTA subway stations, has made me understand their point of view a good bit more.  The folks who live out here are working class people - not wealthy, mainly teachers, firefighters, police, sanitation workers, union people, but not wealthy like they are along the Northern coast of LI - they live in moderate co-ops and many drive because they don't have good access to mass transit.  I end up getting a lift to the LIRR each night and then paying a subway fare in addition to the almost $6 fare to get from Bayside to Woodside to get home, which sucks.  To get out in the morning, I take a train to another train to a bus, and it takes an hour and 30 minutes most days.  It's not an easy commute.  If you have a car, it takes about 20 minutes, less than that if you speed.  I'm not sure what can be done to be fair to people who live this far out who are also NYC residents and are far from wealthy.

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Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2009, 05:50:37 PM »
I enjoyed so much voting for my candidate of choice in the Presidential election, that I don't want to go back to voting for someone "by default" or vote against someone rather than for them.  I'm hopeful to have someone to vote for, rather than against.

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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2009, 07:04:49 PM »
Nice. Support rich people with cars who drive over the bridges over the poorer people who take the subway. What a nonsensical statement.

Yes....every morning at Queens Plaza I see the Porsches, Lamborghinis, BMW's and Mercedes backed up all waiting to cross into Manhattan.  Never any service vehicles or shabby, beat-up cars which poor people would drive!   :roll:

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That alone will prevent me from supporting him in the primary. Bloomberg is so good on Green transportation and growth policies that I'm reluctant to vote for anyone else, although he certainly has big negatives in other areas (that I personally care less about).

The only "Green" he's good about is money (for his wallet).

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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2009, 07:48:08 PM »
I know plenty of people who live in areas of Queens, the Bronx, and Brooklyn who do not live anywhere near public transportation and who are by no means wealthy.  To imply that everyone that drives into the city is wealthy implies a lack of understanding of working class issues and I'm surprised to hear this view at all.  What a nonsensical statement.   Having a car by no means means you're wealthy.  Lots of time it is out of pure necessity. 

I do not know who I'm voting for.  I don't have much against Bloomberg but I don't have much for him either.  I'll have to do some more research.  I will say Bloomberg's constant flyer mailings are very annoying and a complete waste of trees and money.  It's having the opposite effect on me than its intention.  If he's so into Green, he wouldn't send these flyers out.  I'm not even a Republican and I'm getting them!

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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2009, 09:56:38 PM »
I will say Bloomberg's constant flyer mailings are very annoying and a complete waste of trees and money.  It's having the opposite effect on me than its intention.  If he's so into Green, he wouldn't send these flyers out.  I'm not even a Republican and I'm getting them!

No kidding. My opinion of Bloomberg comes from living in the city he's been the mayor of, not from any flyers being stuffed through my mail slot now or TV commercials. All they show me is how much money he's able to spend on this campaign.

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Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2009, 08:37:42 AM »
If those who profit off teardowns and wholesale destruction of Queens history, are against Avella, then it looks like I chose the right candidate.

Sorry that the message getting out there that Queens isn't a big bowl of cherries because it suddenly has luxury condos disturbs certain folks.
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Sick of overdevelopment?  You can do something about it!  People of Queens, UNITE!

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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2009, 12:36:05 AM »
What neo11 said.

Mayor's "green" initiatives = the color of money.

And not everybody who owns a car is filthy-stinkin' rich. The car I drive is considered "totalled" by the insurance company- after Mom got hit while driving it, she no longer wanted it. Runs just fine despite its crumpled exterior. I do a lot of out-of-town driving, and am a lowly city employee earning nearly half what I did when in the private sector. I avoid driving into NYC for the most part- no reason to do so (too much aggrivation.)

While I endorse bicyclist and pedestrian rights, I can't agree with the East River tolls. Just more "green" for the Mayor's pockets. His desperation to make this happen makes me highly suspicious of his true interest.

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Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #19 on: August 26, 2009, 06:14:43 PM »
The primaries are coming up soon Sept. 15. Debates have been taking place.
When was the last year there have been so much contest? I hope many Democrats come out and choose well. Often the Dem candidate wins out in the general election.

I imagine quite a few but not all Democrats and Bloomberg supporters are glad to see term limits were overturned.
My applause is for those who voted to respect the results of the voter referendum.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/10/23/council-to-debate-term-limits-change/


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Tony Avella of Queens]   

Bill de Blasio of Brooklyn]
Eric N. Gioia of Queens]      
:-o Against term limits    :-o
John C. Liu of Queens]          
David I. Weprin of Queens ]                
Melinda R. Katz of Queens, yes

David Yassky of Brooklyn, yes
Peter F. Vallone Jr. of Queens, yes   
                                          Christine C. Quinn of Manhattan, yes   

http://www.vote.nyc.ny.us/candidateslist.html

Depending on primary results, may again vote pretty much independent.


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Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2009, 08:47:42 PM »
Did anyone see the debate on NY1 tonight? Yikes! Thompson seemed to be trying to be cordial (more of a "let's unite against Bloomberg" attitude), but Avella was crapping all over everyone.

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« Reply #21 on: September 15, 2009, 11:55:41 AM »
[Not related. RIP Swayze]   :cry:

Why did you or did you not vote in the Primaries today?



This is a bit rantish. I do hope Democrats want to and do vote today.

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/09/15/polls-open-for-primary-election/?hp


After seeing some of the debates, maybe you say let's flip a coin or roll a dice. Or let someone else pick. Or maybe govt. management is fine enough that you are comfortable to simply let others vote.

As one Libertarian/independent/city voter, I am looking at this primary as a referendum on the city Democratic party. If you care about your nominees, then I might too. If you dont, why should I?

I ask members of major parties to consider all the candidates available on the ballot. So, I also consider the major party candidates as well.
Soon enough, we will see who are the nominees for the general election.

Voters have choices. You can exercise your right to vote.
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Re: grrr Rant Re: of Citywide Elections
« Reply #22 on: September 15, 2009, 08:44:14 PM »
Why did you or did you not vote in the Primaries today?

I voted, but I decided who I was voting for only this morning, after perusing some endorsements. It's hard to get enthusiastic when voting for a mayoral candidate who has little chance in November, a race for a comptroller position that really shouldn't be elected, and a race for a public advocate position with essentially no power.

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« Reply #23 on: September 15, 2009, 11:21:59 PM »
I watched the debates leading up to this, and most of the candidates seemed like your typical politician. The ones that didn't clearly had no chance of winning. I voted for the ones who didn't have a chance, mostly because they were different, not because I thought they were awesome. My reason for being a registered Democrat as opposed to independent is because I want to be able to vote in primaries. So I did.

I'm surprised John Liu won, with his exaggerated sweatshop story.

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Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #24 on: September 16, 2009, 12:51:32 AM »


I'm surprised John Liu won, with his exaggerated sweatshop story.

John Liu didn't win....he didnt get 40%...He's in a runoff against Yassky. I voted for Liu....but now I am reconsidering.
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Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #25 on: September 16, 2009, 08:20:17 AM »
I think the results yesterday were very interesting.  Queens now will have two openly gay Councilmembers - Daniel Dromm and Jimmy Van Bramer.  My candidate, Mark Weprin, won with over 50% of the vote.  Turnout was very low - we had expected at least 10,000 and only got around 9,000 voters. 

Thompson is a good man and the Mayoral race will tighten as people get to know him. Can his honesty, hard work and message overcome Bloomberg's billions?  I don't know - but we'll find out soon enough.

I backed David Weprin, but I am a huge John Liu fan.  I know John very well and he is a good friend.  While the Daily News has attacked him on the sweatshop story, I believe him and think that he will make an outstanding Comptroller.  I look forward to voting for him in the run-off.

While our own Eric Gioia did make the run-off, he ran a strong campaign and organized a lot of new voices for the Democratic party.  He'll be back - Congrats to him for his new baby!  I did not expect Bill DeBlasio to do better than Gioia, but he ran an amazing campaign.  I was incredibly impressed - Bill is what everyone hopes to find in an elected official.  He is smart, creative, personable and just one dedicated public servant.  Mark Green, who also made the run-off is also very smart - he achieved a lot and did provocative reports when he was previously Public Advocate.  While I still do not get why he would ever want to come back, if elected, he would also be a good choice. 

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« Reply #26 on: September 16, 2009, 12:00:59 PM »
When known, Id like to know what are the runoff races. And what are the recommendations for the candidates.
Saw some of the debates for Advocate and all the candidates came off pretty well to me.
The Controller race is a bit more interesting.

Are there any runoffs for any Council districts?

I was glad to see some Council incumbents will be finding new work.

It has been some time since NY has had a Democratic mayor. Do you believe Thompson would do a fine job, or one as well as the mayor?
I like Thompson's resume. I'd like to see if he has any meaningful private sector experience.
Is it silly to hope for any taxpayer relief? Better budget management?


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Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #27 on: September 16, 2009, 12:17:22 PM »
By way of Wiki, I found what I think is a relevant but older article.
On the role of Controller, Thompson, and bio.

Note this is from 2001.
Thompson is now running for Mayor.

http://www.nytimes.com/2001/08/25/nyregion/race-for-bookkeeper-in-chief-dull-but-significant.html


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Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #28 on: September 16, 2009, 07:07:12 PM »


I backed David Weprin, but I am a huge John Liu fan.  I know John very well and he is a good friend.  While the Daily News has attacked him on the sweatshop story, I believe him and think that he will make an outstanding Comptroller.  I look forward to voting for him in the run-off.

Mark Green, who also made the run-off is also very smart - he achieved a lot and did provocative reports when he was previously Public Advocate.  While I still do not get why he would ever want to come back, if elected, he would also be a good choice. 

Thanks for the head's up on John Liu. I did kind of feel that the Daily News story was a hit piece. hmmm.....well, I got some thinking to do.

As far as Mark Green is concerned. His wanting to come back is due to the Term Limits debacle. I'm going to vote for him because I know he will be a thorn in the side of Bloomberg if he wins....and you are right, Thompson does have a hard fight ahead of him.
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« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2009, 06:12:52 PM »

If you think the mayor should be in office for 12 years, perhaps you might want to contribute $12.
He could use it, right?

Thompson believes Eight years is enough for the incumbent. Bill Thompson will campaign to explain why he should lead for the next four.

He asks that you contribute, about the price of a Big Mac meal, $8.
I can go for at least one of Bill's campaign issues.

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Help us keep the momentum going. Help us share Bill's vision. Help us tell Republican Mike Bloomberg that eight years is enough!

You have the power to bring change to City Hall - help us get our message out by donating $8 today.


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Bell tolls - Quinn Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #30 on: September 18, 2009, 03:34:02 PM »
Will Quinn have the cojones to make an endorsement?
Truth is, Thompson should not accept her endorsement. And she should support Bloomberg if that is her honest feeling. (Sorry to mix honesty with politicians)

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election_2009/2009/09/17/2009-09-17_quinn_feels_wrath_of_angry_voters.html


Angry voters whittle down Speaker Christine Quinn's power base

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And this is by way of Gotham Gazette, which is great for coverage.

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who likes to party Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #31 on: September 23, 2009, 03:00:47 PM »
Who again are the main candidates for mayor?


http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2009/09/meet_your_other_mayoral_candid.html

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Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #32 on: September 24, 2009, 02:58:24 PM »
kind of a longshot but you never know  :mrgreen:

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Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #33 on: September 25, 2009, 09:27:36 PM »
I worked  the last election and will be at the run-off next week, I have no horse in the race, they're  all democrats, but, I find it sad as to turnout. You can't complain if you don't bother  voting.

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I R V Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #34 on: October 01, 2009, 05:25:24 PM »

Instant
Runoff
Voting

http://www.fairvote.org/irv/

A great piece:


Read more:
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http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2009/09/29/2009-09-29_serpe_scrap_the_runoff_system_.html



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Today, a tiny number of voters will go to the polls to choose the Democratic candidates for public advocate and city controller.

Democracy in action? No a costly, stupid process that works against the best principles of public participation.

And one for which there's an easy fix, if we turn to a common-sense innovation.

Taxpayers are footing some $15 million to pay for today's election administration, yet fewer than 200,000  of the 4.3 million registered voters in the city are expected to turn out.


What's the solution?
A simple reform called instant runoff voting.
Instant runoff guarantees majority winners in a single election by allowing voters to rank the candidates in their order of preference (1,2,3) on the very first ballot, rather than making them return to the polls two weeks later.



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It saves time and money - two things that are in short supply these days.

Voting can be quite a chore. Senior citizens, people with limited mobility, parents of young children and workers with two jobs all find it difficult to get to the polls at all, much less twice in as many weeks.

Overseas and military voters are almost completely disenfranchised in runoff elections as there often isn't enough time to mail a ballot and have it returned. That's why several states, including Louisiana, South Carolina and Arkansas, already use instant runoff voting for those voters.

An instant runoff system is easy, it's fair, and, most importantly, it gives as many people as possible a chance to make a final decision on which candidate they want to advance.

We can't put a price on democracy, but we can improve it.


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Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #35 on: October 01, 2009, 11:54:31 PM »
I really like Instant Runoff Voting and I think we would have had the same results we had this week if we had been using it - but we would have saved, what, $15,000,000 that we spent on the run-off, which could have been spent on pressing social needs.

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Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2009, 06:01:29 AM »
First, voter guides should be out soon right. Hopefully in English for English readers.

Online too.
http://www.nyccfb.info/public/voter-guide/general_2009/gnal_09.aspx

Lots of choices.
Note perhaps 2 ballot questions that could take a little bit of your attention.
Both seem reasonable and harmless to me. See if you would vote Yes.

Overall, the election coverage is pretty terrible. I wonder if reporters saw the same debate.
The two candidates invited did a fair job with the questioning.
For what it is worth

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election_2009/2009/10/15/2009-10-15_insiders_say_term_limits_and_supporter_apathy_could_damage_mayor_bloombergs_chan.html

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Still, one of Bloomberg's biggest supporters in the City Council, Democrat Peter Vallone of Queens, cautioned that low turnout in this year's primary - about 11% - should be cause for concern.

"The primary and the runoff results shook the worlds of a lot of political people and are making everyone rethink their strategy,"

"Conventional get-out-the-vote was not effective. Anyone who didn't have a personal interest stayed home."


The DN polls asks
Still for Thompson?
Still for Bloomberg?

Switching vote?

Undecided?

- It still frustrates me when papers claim to note the mayoral candidates and leave almost all out.
A large pdf list covering all the boroughs.

http://vote.nyc.ny.us/pdf/documents/boe/2009GeneralElection/CandidacyList.pdf

I still look at several candidates of several parties. In the end, we are not all going to vote for who/m/ever wins.
I want to have the best possible peace of mind given the choices and the issues.

For mayor, 1st choice is likely to be Thompson. But I still hope for campaign improvement.
It was good to see Firefighters for Thompson out on 31st.

http://www.thompson2009.com/site/home/
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still listing Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2009, 09:10:40 AM »
I didnt know this NYS site would still be up. Nor who is this writer.
But I wonder if his views are fairly common.

http://www.nysun.com/opinion/bloombergs-diversion-strategy/86887/

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The negative tone of Mayor Bloomberg’s reelection effort must signify that there is concern in the Bloomberg camp over Comptroller Thompson’s surprising strength with just over two weeks to go in the campaign.

It could be that the Bloomberg camp is really worried that, despite the advantage they have in money and institutional support, Thompson is gaining and could pull off a surprise upset. Alternatively, the campaign may be a reflection of the nasty side of Michael Bloomberg. Either way, I wouldn’t be surprised were the negative ads and their sheer volume having a reverse effect, turning voters off to Mr. Bloomberg.



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And that is what has been lost in the sea of Bloomberg negativity on Mr. Thompson’s record. The real issue in this campaign is the city’s fragile economic health. The editorial boards told us last year that the mayor is the indispensible man to lead us in these difficult times, yet he has failed to make the tough decisions to right a ship that is still listing.

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« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2009, 05:43:24 PM »
A pretty good rundown on the debate. Helps me.



City Council Candidates Debate

BY GEORGINA YOUNG-ELLIS

http://www.qgazette.com/news/2009-10-21/Front_Page/City_Council_Candidates_Debate.html
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Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #40 on: October 27, 2009, 11:20:38 AM »
I can't wait ...

http://www.astorians.com/community/index.php?topic=15473.0


... for the election to be over.
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What's that Daily Show phrase?

Hopefully you have already made up your mind, and you plan to vote.
If not, we still might get a robocall, or 2, or 6 dozen.

Tonight is a final debate.
The candidates for Mayor of New York City meet in a debate on Tuesday, October 27 at
7:00 p.m. on Channel 7 and 7online.com


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Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #41 on: October 30, 2009, 06:45:38 AM »
I hope voters vote, and vote their best hopes. I would love to have renewed faith in our voters and our election system.

As one wanting to see less govt, less spending/debt/taxes, integrity and transparency, it seems ever appropriate that election day comes so soon after Halloween.

If I were voting the straight LBT ticket, it would be

- Dobrian for mayor
- Lesczynski for advocate
- Clifton for comptroller

All have been on the balllot before. All have supported LBT principles for many years. I am thankful to have the option to vote for them this election.

I have noted, for me, the best match of office/agenda/person is Lesczynski.

I dont often take an interest in the primaries of other parties. But I am comfortable still with Liu for the office of comptroller.

There are thankfully many possibilities on the ballot. I find choosing a candidate for mayor is difficult, but I will have peace in voting for Thompson.
I hope voters take their choice and what it means seriously.

Whatever the results on election night, we all should hope the next 4 years bring wide prosperity, better schooling, safe and peaceful streets, vibrant communities, and more.

Peace.
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Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #42 on: October 30, 2009, 12:41:37 PM »
Heehee, I just got this screed forwarded to me...

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Subject: NO  JOHN LIU:  A  warning  from  The Coalition of  Guards  for American  Values

NO JOHN LIU
A warning from The Coalition of Guards for American Values

The election on November 3 is coming soon, we are hereby strongly appealing to all media and the public of New York City to come to know the true face of John Liu, stop him form taking the position of New York City controller.  We also strongly appeal to the DA office of Queens to expedite the investigation on John Liu for his illegal campaign financing activities so as to stop his further crimes of damaging America.

We are the New York citizens of Chinese and Korean origins, and understand John Liu in and out.  He is only superficially a Democrat, the matter of the true nature of him is neither Democrat nor Republican, but a Communist instead.  Our conclusion has come based on the facts.  The true reason of his coming so close to the communists is that he hates America and hope to use the foreign force to exert the greatest hit on the United States in the style of 911 terrorist attacks.

John Liu emigrated from Taiwan with his parents while he was only five years old.  He has grown up in this country with Taiwanese parents.  But he loves neither Taiwan nor the United States, rather, he loves the Chinese Communist Regime that has no direction relation with him at all. A federal court sentenced his father for his embezzlements of bank deposits from ethnic Chinese customers right after John Liu was elected as the councilman of New York City.  Liu was very upset and discontent toward the American political and social systems. He developed hatred towards American government and people since then.  In contrast, the Communist regime from China has not give him any help during his growing up, why did he actively collude with the communist regime from China and say all good words about the regime? That is because the communist regime has always taken the United States as its main enemy in the last 60 years, the regime’s military developments has also targeted on the United States, the oversea website of the regime even openly threatened to bomb four million New Yorkers by PLA (the People’s Liberation Army) bombers.  The reason why John Liu supports the communist regime is to hope that the regime become stronger and stronger and one day it will bring destructive blow out onto American people.  Because of this, John Liu did not give any praises towards the American systems but praised the communist dictatorship in China; because of this, he refused to offer help to a mother of two American soldiers fighting for the country in Iraq, yet he went to the communist consulate three times to  convey the congratulatory plaques for the launches of communist military satellites; and because of this he never condemned the terrorist attacks on this country yet he called American government terrorism (on local Chinese language media) when a pregnant illegal Chinese immigrant had a miscarriage while being deported by the US government.

If we can’t stop him, his actions of this hatred will become intensified.  For the sake of our families, our parents and children and all American people, we must united and say NO to John Liu.

The Communist regime, with which John Liu has been colluding, has never been lenient.  It has caused at least 80 million unnatural death among Chinese people during its ruling in Mainland China.  Now it has established heavy infiltration in the United States.  It has invested a huge amount of money in developing its organizations in this country. According to the reliable resource, there are 360 all different pro-communist organizations in New York alone.  The number of Chinese people that are controlled or manipulated by the communist consulates has reach 300,000.  Two out of three Chinese you see in New York.  What’s the reason behind their endless effort in incorporating, organizing and controlling the oversea Chinese? According to reliable information source, these oversea Chinese will be used by the communist regime to strike on this country in for situations:

   1. When the CCP gives the command to strike against the United States
   2. When a war breaks out between Communist China and the US,
   3. When the States encounters strikes from outside and the whole states becomes weak and
   4. When the Communist regime is collapsing via Chinese people’s overthrowing effects. 

The more terrifying situation is that these oversea Chinese are required by the regime to take actions to strike against the States voluntarily when there cannot get instructions at all.   Because of the huge number of them, even one percent of them start the striking actions onto the States, that would be 3000 people in them and then the destructions would be enormous (comparing to only 22 terrorist involved in 911 attacks).

John Liu knows these things and would like to get hold of more power and use it to cover up the communist regime’s intentions and in the mean time to entice more Chinese in this country become anti-American.  Next time the real terrorist attacks will be from those Chinese living in this country and controlled by the communist regime if we want life continue in the way we want, we must stop John Liu and the Communist regime from infiltrating this country.

Please tell this message to as many people as you can.

Thank you.

October 13, 2009

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how lucky you are Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #43 on: October 30, 2009, 12:47:44 PM »
Heehee, I just got this screed forwarded to me...

Who knew!  :lol:

Whew. Thanks for the warning.   :|

I grew up near, not related, a fiercely anti-communist Vietnamese community.
So such screeds are not so foreign.

That said, the screeds go in my trash file.

... however ... he is supported by the WFP...

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« Reply #44 on: October 30, 2009, 03:25:32 PM »


http://www.ballot-access.org/2009/10/30/two-former-twin-cities-mayors-publish-op-ed-in-favor-of-instant-runoff-voting/



The Minneapolis Star-Tribune of October 29 has this op-ed in favor of Instant Runoff Voting. It is co-authored by Don Fraser, who was Mayor of Minneapolis 1980-1994, and George Latimer, who was Mayor of St. Paul 1976-1980. The issue is timely because St. Paul voters are voting on whether to use Instant Runoff Voting in next week’s election. [?]

In related news, the Aspen (Colorado) Times has this editorial in favor of retaining Instant Runoff Voting in that city.


Instant
Runoff
Voting

http://www.fairvote.org/irv/

A great piece:


Read more:
http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/

http://www.nydailynews.com/opinions/2009/09/29/2009-09-29_serpe_scrap_the_runoff_system_.html



Serpe is former deputy director of the Political Reform Program of the
New America Foundation and was a senior analyst for FairVote.
She is currently running for City Council in Queens' District 22.
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Charmed Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #45 on: November 04, 2009, 07:49:06 AM »

A good night for incumbents in NYC. Democrat, or otherwise.
 :?

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/04/text-of-bloombergs-victory-speech/



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Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #46 on: November 04, 2009, 08:55:55 AM »
So much closer in the Mayoral race than expected.  If only Thompson had won - he is such a good man and would have been an amazing Mayor.  I was shocked by all the negative ads by Bloomberg trashing Bill Thompson - shocked and offended.  He could have just run positive ads touting his record, which has a number of accomplishments - he did not need to slander someone.

I am sad to see the loss by the two Democratic Asian council candidates, Yen Chou and Kevin Kim.  I know them both well and was looking forward to seeing them in the Council. 

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2010 Re: Discussion of Citywide Elections
« Reply #47 on: November 17, 2009, 05:57:11 PM »
Frankly hardly worth the click.
Speculations. But a cute little cartoon.


http://www.cityhallnews.com/newyork/article-1023-high-hopes-for-gop-council-conference-with-new-heights-in-membership.html


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