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Conservative Tea Parties
« on: April 10, 2009, 12:25:19 AM »
I have heard rumors that Conservatives are sending Tea bags to President Obama and joining teabag parties.

Before any Conservative here does ....Please Google teabagging. And learn what it actually means. I just want you to be saved from being embarrassed.
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Re: Conservative Tea Parties
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2009, 12:34:29 AM »
I have heard rumors that Conservatives are sending Tea bags to President Obama and joining teabag parties.

Before any Conservative here does ....Please Google teabagging. And learn what it actually means. I just want you to be saved from being embarrassed.

Hehe  :-D  Good one.

I actually know someone who participated in one of these outside of City Hall last month.  Not sure whether the organizers would get your joke, but I've never heard any conservative express a desire to "teabag" President Obama.  I am not going to make a Larry Craig joke.

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Re: Conservative Tea Parties
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2009, 12:42:55 AM »
Hehe  :-D  Good one.

.  I am not going to make a Larry Craig joke.

oh good god... I was not thinking Larry Craig on this one....But now that you have grossed me out.....Imaging teabagging Rush Limbaugh.
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thats a taco Re: American Tea Parties
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2009, 06:43:12 AM »

 :-D

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Given the dramatic circumstances of the Boston Tea Party, tax revolts are actually quite unusual in the US.

“The most interesting thing about the American people is that we are generally compliant in paying taxes, and tax revolts that seem surprising here are fairly common in a country like France where those farmers, if they get upset, they simply don’t pay,” says Mary Segers, a political scientist at Rutgers University in New Brunswick, NJ. “Americans are a strange people with respect to taxes, so this revolt is very interesting for that reason alone.”

Have you googled taco? I want to know when the taco party starts.   :-P

I thought Boston was special in history thanks to teabags.   :-D
But turns out teabags are a NY invention.   :|

http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/02/27/budget-debate-launches-new-tea-party/

http://taxdayteaparty.com/

/ on Facebook so it must be significant, not sure if folks are Twitting this



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Re: Conservative Tea Parties
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2009, 06:12:28 PM »
Never really thought about going, but than I thought why not?
Here's the facebook page;
http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=54341378611
I've got some free time. I'm hoping it's not like those moronic "death to capitalism" protests, but who knows.
Something is going to give at some point and this country needs to get a new sense of itself. This is not "panic" time, this is not "crisis" time, but this is a time to be heard.

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Re: Conservative Tea Parties
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2009, 06:20:40 PM »
Also, ya gotta love Reason TV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv4OeKmWjOI

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Re: Conservative Tea Parties
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2009, 01:10:18 AM »
Also, ya gotta love Reason TV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv4OeKmWjOI

The beginning statistic makes me suspicious. They say the average taxpayer pays 13% in taxes. I pay more like 40% in taxes. As in, my take home pay is only 60% of my yearly salary...And I'm in the average yearly earnings.

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# 1 ? Re: NY Tea Parties
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2009, 06:42:55 PM »
It seems many pay between 10-30%+ but just for federal income taxes. Most on the lower end.
That does not include any number of items out of your income like social security, state taxes, city taxes, ...

So it really galls me whenever folks see overspending and look for the answer to confiscate more from their wealthier neighbors.



It also strikes me when candidates worry about revenue shortages, though having over a million dollars in their treasury,
and will take from public taxypayer funds for their campaigns.
If I am not mistaken, our local official Vallone does not take taxpayer funding for his campaigns. To be commended for this.



Recent reports:

http://gothamist.com/2009/01/23/each_nyc_residents_share_of_city_de.php

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Each NYC Resident's Share of City Debt: $7,153

City Comptroller William Thompson found that capital projects costs, which are
"funded primarily with debt, has escalated by 187 percent since Fiscal Year 1990"
—which translates into a debt per capita of $7,153.
the city will will struggle to pay interest on its $59 billion "mortgage,"
 "Capital projects that seemed affordable before may have been based on a revenue bubble that has since burst.
New York City leads other large American cities in average debt per capita by a margin of two-to-one.
Particularly in light of the City’s and the nation’s financial difficulties, it is imperative that now we redefine capital priorities
in order to achieve fiscal responsibility.”



http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123940286075109617.html

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Like the old competition to have the world's tallest building, New York can't resist having the nation's highest taxes.
So after California raised its top income tax rate to 10.55% last month, Albany's politicians leapt into action to reclaim high-tax honors.

 
They can invite politicians from the at least 10 other states that are also considering major tax hikes, including Oregon, Illinois, Wisconsin, Washington, Arizona and New Jersey. One explicit argument for the $787 billion "stimulus" bill was to help states avoid these tax increases that even Keynesians understand are contractionary. Instead, the state politicians are pocketing the federal cash to maintain spending, and raising taxes anyway. Just another spend-and-tax bait and switch.





Mr. Silver says of the coming tax hikes: "We've done it before. There hasn't been a catastrophe."
Oh, really? According to Census Bureau data, over the past decade 1.97 million New Yorkers left the state for greener pastures -- the biggest exodus of any state. New York City has lost more than 75,000 jobs since last August, and many industrial areas upstate are as rundown as Detroit.
The American Legislative Exchange Council recently said New York had the worst economic outlook of all 50 states, including Michigan. And that analysis was done before these $4 billion in new taxes.

 The new budget raises another $2 billion or so on top of the $4 billion in income taxes with some 100 new taxes, fees, fines, surcharges and penalties to be paid by all New York residents. There are new charges for cell phone usage, fishing permits, health insurance (the "sick tax"), electric bills, and on bottled water, cigars, beer and wine.


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Re: # 1 ? Re: NY Tea Parties
« Reply #8 on: April 13, 2009, 01:11:30 AM »

If I am not mistaken, our local official Vallone does not take taxpayer funding for his campaigns. To be commended for this.

But he did vote to give himself a third term...so he can screw himself.....I am sure he can manage that act....after all he is a politician.
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Re: # 1 ? Re: NY Tea Parties
« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2009, 01:15:05 AM »


So it really galls me whenever folks see overspending and look for the answer to confiscate more from their wealthier neighbors.

I am curious....why does this gall you? Do you really believe the Wealthy on the Upper East Side pay more of a percentage in taxes than we do in Astoria? With their off shore accounts and gimmicks? Please tell me you don't think this....
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Re: NY Tea Parties
« Reply #10 on: April 13, 2009, 07:38:49 AM »

You can believe what you want. Certainly there are lots of advantages for the wealthy, and many ways to reduce tax burdens.
But still the top 5% pay 60% of federal income taxes.   :-o


And if your fantasy were true, NYC would not be hit as hard by the dependence on high Wall Street incomes.



http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/01/taxes-warren-buffett-and-paying-my-fair-share/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estate_tax_in_the_United_States
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Re: NY Tea Parties
« Reply #11 on: April 13, 2009, 07:46:16 AM »
With your tax burden, what are you buying?
Somehow the govt always seems to spend more than the people would approve.


http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/



11 TRILLION +++

The estimated population of the United States is 305,993,197
so each citizen's share of this debt is $36,547.48.

The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$3.87 billion per day since September 28, 2007!

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Re: NY Tea Parties
« Reply #12 on: April 13, 2009, 08:26:56 AM »
With your tax burden, what are you buying?
Somehow the govt always seems to spend more than the people would approve.


http://www.brillig.com/debt_clock/



11 TRILLION +++

The estimated population of the United States is 305,993,197
so each citizen's share of this debt is $36,547.48.

The National Debt has continued to increase an average of
$3.87 billion per day since September 28, 2007!



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Re: Conservative Tea Parties
« Reply #13 on: April 13, 2009, 11:08:45 AM »
TRX, please please please do not take up writing greeting cards.  It would just kill me.

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