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Re: Third Term for City Council & Mayor
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2008, 10:27:18 PM »
Here is the letter I sent to Vallone...for what it's worth.....

Dear Councilmember Vallone,

I am writing this letter to inform you of my absolute anger at your vote yesterday to extent the term limits to 3 terms for the Mayor of New York City and coincidently, yourself. And please don’t tell me you did not calculate the advantage this would give you if you win a third term.

This letter is not about whether terms limits are right or wrong. I myself have mixed feelings about that. This is about the will of the people.

You stated, according to the New York Times, that your vote was not about one man but for the city itself. I could not disagree more. Your vote was in support of a plan hatched by two billionaires in the back rooms of City Hall. You, after a meeting with the mayor, cast a vote that goes against the will of the voters.

Ultimately, you, a citizen of Astoria, have been bought and paid for by two billionaire elites from the Upper East Side. So, I must ask, what did Mayor Bloomberg promise you during that meeting: a seat at the charter revision committee in 2010 like he did Ronald Lauder?

How dare you go against the will of the voters. And please don’t give some argument that you did it for the good of the people during this crisis. That is a subjective argument that is based on the hope that Mayor Bloomberg will do a good job.

Come on. How can that not make you sick? A deal between two billionaires that changed a law the voters approved.

It comes down to this. You, as a representative of the citizens of Astoria, cast a vote that subverted the will of the people. And in doing so, you benefited yourself. And that, to me, is the mark of a politician who does not stand up for his constituents but for himself. And therefore, as long as I live in Astoria, I will never cast a vote for you again.

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Re: Third Term for City Council & Mayor
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2008, 11:12:31 PM »
Here is the letter I sent to Vallone...for what it's worth.....

Dear Councilmember Vallone,

I am writing this letter to inform you of my absolute anger at your vote yesterday to extent the term limits to 3 terms for the Mayor of New York City and coincidently, yourself. And please don’t tell me you did not calculate the advantage this would give you if you win a third term.

This letter is not about whether terms limits are right or wrong. I myself have mixed feelings about that. This is about the will of the people.

You stated, according to the New York Times, that your vote was not about one man but for the city itself. I could not disagree more. Your vote was in support of a plan hatched by two billionaires in the back rooms of City Hall. You, after a meeting with the mayor, cast a vote that goes against the will of the voters.

Ultimately, you, a citizen of Astoria, have been bought and paid for by two billionaire elites from the Upper East Side. So, I must ask, what did Mayor Bloomberg promise you during that meeting: a seat at the charter revision committee in 2010 like he did Ronald Lauder?

How dare you go against the will of the voters. And please don’t give some argument that you did it for the good of the people during this crisis. That is a subjective argument that is based on the hope that Mayor Bloomberg will do a good job.

Come on. How can that not make you sick? A deal between two billionaires that changed a law the voters approved.

It comes down to this. You, as a representative of the citizens of Astoria, cast a vote that subverted the will of the people. And in doing so, you benefited yourself. And that, to me, is the mark of a politician who does not stand up for his constituents but for himself. And therefore, as long as I live in Astoria, I will never cast a vote for you again.



Two Billionares?  I'm with you on this  3rd  term over-ride. But, states and courts have been over ruling the will of  the people for years. I mean it took years  to reinstate  the death penalty. Personally, they should have made it  3 times, instead of two, 3 times and you're  out.

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Re: Third Term for City Council & Mayor
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2008, 09:46:30 AM »
Two Billionares?  I'm with you on this  3rd  term over-ride. But, states and courts have been over ruling the will of  the people for years. I mean it took years  to reinstate  the death penalty. Personally, they should have made it  3 times, instead of two, 3 times and you're  out.

Sure the courts have.....like in Brown vs Board of Education. However, in this case, the over ruling of the people here benefited themselves.

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Re: Third Term for City Council & Mayor
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2008, 01:43:55 PM »
The people have voted twice to limit terms to two. This is a power grab by those currently in power and it is against the will of the citizens of NYC. They should either allow  the people to vote on term limits again, or we should all vote against Bloomberg.

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Re: Third Term for City Council & Mayor
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2008, 02:05:35 AM »
The people have voted twice to limit terms to two. This is a power grab by those currently in power and it is against the will of the citizens of NYC. They should either allow  the people to vote on term limits again, or we should all vote against Bloomberg.

Why vote  just against  Bloomberg and not also the council  members  who endorsed  it? Personally, I don't care  how many times  someone runs.

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Re: Third Term for City Council & Mayor
« Reply #20 on: October 30, 2008, 02:14:59 AM »
I think most people who feel that Gloomberg should not be elected again feel the same way about the City Council members who voted the same way.  Of course Gloomberg is the one getting the attention about it since it was his initiative, but no one who supported this should be spared.  They should all be voted out of office.

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Re: Third Term for City Council & Mayor
« Reply #21 on: October 30, 2008, 02:20:06 AM »
I think most people who feel that Gloomberg should not be elected again feel the same way about the City Council members who voted the same way.  Of course Gloomberg is the one getting the attention about it since it was his initiative, but no one who supported this should be spared.  They should all be voted out of office.

LOL.. Gloomberg.  I hear ya,  I voted  for  the guy, figuring he'd continue  'policing'  like Guiliani, but, he's way softer. Plus, he has gone  through  all the parties, Democrat, Republican, etc?  Still, I have  to see  who the alternatives  will be before  I rule  him out?

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Re: Third /or more/ TermS for City Council & Mayor
« Reply #22 on: November 21, 2008, 04:46:38 PM »
LOL..  Plus, he has gone  through  all the parties, Democrat, Republican, etc?  Still, I have  to see  who the alternatives  will be before  I rule  him out?

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I know you dont like polls, but again >>>

http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN2145813020081121

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New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg's popularity fell to its lowest level in three years after he pushed through a law allowing him to seek a third four-year term, according to a poll released on Friday.

Bloomberg's approval rating has dropped from 68 percent to 59 percent in one month, the first time it has dipped below 60 percent since October 2005, the poll by the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion showed.

Bloomberg, a former Wall Street trader and self-made billionaire who was elected mayor in 2001 and 2005, has said his financial experience would be invaluable as the city deals with the global economic crisis.

Critics have accused him of a naked power grab using the financial crisis as a pretext.

Earlier this month, Bloomberg signed a law raising the term limit for elected officials to three four-year terms from two, which would allow him to run in the 2009 mayoral election.

The law, approved in a vote last month by the New York City Council,
runs counter to public referendums held in 1993 and 1996 that imposed the two-term limit.

Just 30 percent of New Yorkers support the term limit extension, while 43 percent oppose it and nearly half say the courts should strike down the law, the poll showed.

Almost half of New Yorkers say the city is headed in the wrong direction, it showed, a marked change from a March 2006 survey when two-thirds said it was on the right path.

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Marist pollster Lee Miringoff told reporters at City Hall that Bloomberg's performance in the 2009 election is likely to reflect New Yorkers' view of the economy rather than any hard feelings about the term limits change.

"If he loses, I assume it would be because of the economy and issues of the direction of the city that people want to go in," Miringoff said. "I would be surprised if he's voted out of office because of term limits."


Still, for a city heading in the "wrong direction" seems like Bloomberg has still quite some popularity.
Elected officials (or emperors), do they need anything more than 50+% support.


For those who may still support term limits, are you likely to vote again to impose term limit
?guidelines?
And would you vote Democrat for mayor and Republican for city council??
(where there are no alternatives)
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Re: Third Term for City Council & Mayor
« Reply #23 on: November 21, 2008, 05:26:22 PM »
Good.  I hope his approval rating continues to drop and I hope he loses.  Wannabe dictators like Gloomberg have no place in public office.

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Re: Third Term for City Council & Mayor
« Reply #24 on: February 04, 2009, 12:39:58 PM »
This again, and again, and again. Will voters forget about the term limit void travesty or are voters happy to keep the gang back for another go?

I would love it if all the 2 term incumbents were voted out. But that is another unlikely dream.

In a different cold month, voters will choose several officers including Public Advocate.
Norman Siegel has run before without much luck. Any improved opinions of the man?

For DF hopes for change: (pdf)

http://dfnyc.org/images/stories/flyers/2009-02-04_dfnycearlyendorsementballot2.pdf
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another vote? ?? Re: Third Term for City Council? & Mayor?
« Reply #25 on: February 26, 2009, 04:08:51 PM »
In some cases, I do question the effectiveness of voting, but for what it is worth -

http://www.ballot-access.org/2009/02/25/new-york-bill-to-require-new-york-city-popular-vote-on-term-limits-advances/

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On February 25, the New York State Assembly Election Law Assembly passed A1224. If it is signed into law, it would require New York city voters to vote in May 2009 on whether they approve of abolishing term limits for the city’s Mayor, city councilmembers, and the other two citywide executive elected posts. The chief sponsor is Assemblymember Hakeem Jeffries (D-Brooklyn). The Senate has an identical bill, S1536, whose chief sponsor is Senator Kevin Parker (D-Brooklyn).


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Re: Third Term for City Council & Mayor
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2009, 12:58:28 PM »
I could see the bill passing both the Assembly and the Senate, but I hear Paterson is likely to veto it - he doesn't need Bloomberg forced out of office and running against him.

Did people see Mark Green is trying to come back as Public Advocate?  What do folks make of that?

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Re: Third Term for City Council & Mayor
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2009, 01:52:02 PM »
Did people see Mark Green is trying to come back as Public Advocate?  What do folks make of that?
Mark Green was/is a publicity whore. Someone needs to tell him to go away. I am so over him.
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Re: Third Term for City Council & Mayor
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2009, 01:57:24 PM »
the field in that race is really shaping up to be an interesting one - City Councilmembers Eric Gioia, John Liu and Bill DeBlasio, Norman Siegel and now Mark Green.  Hard to say who will take it.  I can't get going back to your old office - it seems so dated.


 

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