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Offline jennifer

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How to get yourself banned
« on: June 11, 2008, 03:42:11 PM »
I think I missed this one in the operating instructions

Can you be banned from this board by *bumping* a thread??
Rumor has it  - you can???

Doesn't make sense to me... I'm sure many have innocently *bumped* without being bumped. 

Please address.

Maybe the person who was banned for this action misunderstoood the reason??


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Re: How to get yourself banned
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2008, 08:57:40 PM »
No rumor. It's in the rules. Yes you can get suspended for bumping a thread. This is the same thing as posting a duplicate post, or spamming a topic. The whole purpose is to force the thread to get more visibility when people haven't taken interest in it organically.

If you want the post to have more visibility, don't "bump" it.

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Re: How to get yourself banned
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2008, 09:04:59 PM »
Here's the wording for those who haven't read the rules:

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- Avoid repetition and duplicate posting: We encourage a diversity of viewpoints; however once a point has been made the discussion needs to move forward. Excessive repetition and filibustering are not permitted - this also applies to "announcements". You might think this will give more exposure to your content; it does, but in a negative way because this is seen as rude. Post your content once, to the correct category. This includes "quoting" an earlier message for the sole purpose of bumping the thread or expressing agreement. Please use the "nod" feature instead.

I should also point out that the subject of the thread is misleading. We don't "ban" anyone for violating most of the site guidelines. In most cases people get a warning, then a short suspension, then a long suspension, then a longer one, then they get "banned". Of course it's up to the moderators how to handle each case as it's typically different. Spamming porn is one thing that will get you permanantly banned instantly for example, bumping a thread, or duplicate posting, or using all caps etc will just get you a warning. But technically speaking if you had already been suspended a couple times for other things you could I suppose be "banned" for doing it. I'm not sure it would be the straw that breaks the camels back, but then again I've never been pushed to the limit of my patience on thread bumping so who knows.

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Re: How to get yourself banned
« Reply #3 on: June 11, 2008, 09:55:51 PM »
We don't "ban" anyone for violating most of the site guidelines. In most cases people get a warning, then a short suspension, then a long suspension, then a longer one, then they get "banned".

My bad.... the person did say suspended....

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Re: How to get yourself banned
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2008, 11:06:07 PM »
Interesting topic, since I was suspended yesterday, and I didn't even get a warning. Granted it was my second suspension in as many years, but I would think that if you're going to suspend a user, a small warning would suffice, as well as informing the user why s/he is being suspended.
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Re: How to get yourself banned
« Reply #5 on: June 11, 2008, 11:29:10 PM »
Hey Bentley's dad. I didn't send you a warning because as you've pointed out this is your second suspension after already having had previous warnings. However, the board should display the reason for your suspension when you visit the site, did it not? If so, then this is a malfunction because it's how I've understood the process to work.

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Re: How to get yourself banned
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2008, 09:41:38 AM »
Here's the wording for those who haven't read the rules:

I should also point out that the subject of the thread is misleading. We don't "ban" anyone for violating most of the site guidelines. In most cases people get a warning, then a short suspension, then a long suspension, then a longer one, then they get "banned". Of course it's up to the moderators how to handle each case as it's typically different. Spamming porn is one thing that will get you permanantly banned instantly for example, bumping a thread, or duplicate posting, or using all caps etc will just get you a warning. But technically speaking if you had already been suspended a couple times for other things you could I suppose be "banned" for doing it. I'm not sure it would be the straw that breaks the camels back, but then again I've never been pushed to the limit of my patience on thread bumping so who knows.

I'm confused as to why the Freeze Peach people haven't gotten suspended, then. Or more people in the homeless man thread. Or when people bump threads for events the day beforehand when there hasn't been a single other post in the thread. Or there's that one thread...

I guess it just seems like there's lots of "bumping" and repetitive posting here that doesn't get people in trouble. Now, I'm not saying that it should get them warned, but maybe that the rule is a little too general or the phrasing a little unclear. I understand that it is at your discretion, but I am pretty surprised that someone who bumped a thread about unmoderated discussion at a time when people were getting suspended it for the 3:30am thread is the one who got in trouble and not other posters who bump their own events or schill for local businesses.

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Re: How to get yourself banned
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2008, 09:58:27 AM »
Or there's that one thread...


Mr. paratactical....THAT one thread doesn't count because it's Last Poster Wins (if that's the one you're referring to {{teeeheeeeheee :-P}}, in which case as long as there are new people joining and jumping on that band wagon there will always be a LAST POSTER.   It's like the what came first the chicken or the egg sort of scenario.........
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Re: How to get yourself banned
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2008, 10:13:34 AM »
The specific problem is when people just "bump" the thread with no new content, or repost the same thing that was up further in the thread. If you're having a conversation that's not "bumping" specifically. The FP thread isn't a "bump".

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Re: How to get yourself banned
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2008, 11:12:04 AM »
The specific problem is when people just "bump" the thread with no new content, or repost the same thing that was up further in the thread. If you're having a conversation that's not "bumping" specifically. The FP thread isn't a "bump".

So, another words, if someone writes a full sentence that restates or even says the same thing from a previous post, that is technically not a bump. But if they come in and post "bump" then that violates this board's rules. Sort of like "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."  :mrgreen:

p.s. It's also interesting to note that before all this gibberish, there were 3 references to astorialogues.com on this forum. Apparently, we now know what your limits are in terms of wearing your patience out for thread bumping. Wow, those 3 references and the bump that happened in one of them (which we can no longer see, did you delete it?) must have really tired you out, huh? Good to know we all feel welcomed and exactly how you feel. Actions speak louder than words. Justify all you want.

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Re: How to get yourself banned
« Reply #10 on: June 12, 2008, 11:52:52 AM »
Hey Bentley's dad. I didn't send you a warning because as you've pointed out this is your second suspension after already having had previous warnings. However, the board should display the reason for your suspension when you visit the site, did it not? If so, then this is a malfunction because it's how I've understood the process to work.

All it said was "multiple violations in the we will rock you thread". That isn't a reason. I mean it didn't even EXPLAIN precisely what I said that warranted a suspension. An email would suffice next time. Plus, even though this is my second suspension in as many years, I have only received two warnings total.
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Re: How to get yourself banned
« Reply #11 on: June 12, 2008, 12:38:35 PM »
Yikes, I didn't know the no bumping policy.  Every few months, I like to remind Astorians that I have a small business that they might enjoy the benefits of.  Now I'm scared that it will be considered spamming but I guess it's considered case by case?  Seems like there are some grey areas. 

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Re: How to get yourself banned
« Reply #12 on: June 12, 2008, 12:40:11 PM »
So, another words, if someone writes a full sentence that restates or even says the same thing from a previous post, that is technically not a bump. But if they come in and post "bump" then that violates this board's rules. Sort of like "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is."  :mrgreen:

p.s. It's also interesting to note that before all this gibberish, there were 3 references to astorialogues.com on this forum. Apparently, we now know what your limits are in terms of wearing your patience out for thread bumping.

Those three threads are not "bumps". I think there's a fundamental misunderstanding of what it means to bump a thread. Basically, if you reply to the same thread and post the exact same thing, or reply to a thread and say the word "bump" THAT is bumping. I frequently remove duplicate postings and "bumps" which is why you are not seeing the "bumps" and duplicate postings on the astorialogues threads. Where there's a conversation going on there's no problem - when people are trying to "game" an otherwise organic conversation is when it raises my attention.

Guys, please realize there's a difference between "bumping" and adding new content to a conversation.

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Re: How to get yourself banned
« Reply #13 on: June 12, 2008, 12:43:19 PM »
Guys, please realize there's a difference between "bumping" and adding new content to a conversation.

I just think that everyone has different opinions about what is "adding new content."

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Re: How to get yourself banned
« Reply #14 on: June 12, 2008, 01:49:28 PM »
Please see: Thread Bumping.

I think perhaps I take for granted that users of this forum will be familiar with netiquette in general. There is a ton of information on the web about netiquette. Any person who regularly uses forums should be familiar with the basics.

The rules of this discussion forum are shaped after general netiquette principals employed (to varying degrees) at other mid to large-sized forums across the internet.

Bentley, if by looking at the thread you honestly don't know where your posts were inflammatory, I'll be glad to compile this for you and send it to you personally.


 

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