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How is it that Astoria is represented in the state senate by Onorato, who today has alligned himself with the Democrat subgroup typified by Monserrate and Ruben Diaz, Sr.?  They are the minority of Democrats who voted against Marriage Equality today, along with ALL of the Republicans.

Why is Astoria represented by this person?

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good question - he's clearly out of touch with his district.

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Time for the man to go. 

Please call him at 518-455-3486, leave a message and let him know how you feel about today's vote. 

I'm ready to rally.  Let's make it happen.

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Time for the man to go. 

Please call him at 518-455-3486, leave a message and let him know how you feel about today's vote. 

I'm ready to rally.  Let's make it happen.

I called both his Albany and Astoria offices. Albany was very pleasant.

I basically got hung up on when I called the Astoria office. Called back and had a "chat" with the man who answered for a couple minutes.

Onorato has got to go.

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I called the number in 518, which I assume is Albany, and in addition to my message, asked for a response.  We'll see if I get that, but more importantly, this district deserve better representation.  Is Onorato all that is available to us?

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When's Onorato's term up again? 

McDirk -  What's the word on the street.  Are there viable candidates out there rearing to challenge Onorato?

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When's Onorato's term up again? 

McDirk -  What's the word on the street.  Are there viable candidates out there rearing to challenge Onorato?

I believe his term ends next year.

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his term ends 2010  vote him out   after new year you will know whos running.i am so pissed hes out of touch with astoria and LIC

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I called the Albany office as the debate was going on and spoke with a very friendly lady who took down my address for a response.  So disappointed to be represented by someone who doesn't share my views on this and I was actually relieved to see that other Astorians are so pissed off.  I would like to hear an explanation of why he voted the way he did but from what I read only Diaz spoke when explaining his opposition -- all the other nays were silent.

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He's not out of touch with communnity, some of you are though. I'll vote him back in along with others who want him back.  He was always suporting gay issues, as soon as he says no to one, he's evil?   

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He's not out of touch with communnity, some of you are though. I'll vote him back in along with others who want him back.  He was always suporting gay issues, as soon as he says no to one, he's evil?   
Onorato's tenure is now in serious jeopardy.  No more rubber-stamping pols who don't represent the constituency.  As much as some may dislike it, the community has changed during Onorato's tenure: Ethnically, Racially, and Politically.  We're not out of touch, we're under-served and misrepresented.  So let's make certain we all organize to back a candidate who will truly represent ALL of us.
 

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When's Onorato's term up again? 

McDirk -  What's the word on the street.  Are there viable candidates out there rearing to challenge Onorato?

I think there are a number of potential candidates and I'd be shocked if one (or more) don't step up.  Should be for an interesting 2010!

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I think there are a number of potential candidates and I'd be shocked if one (or more) don't step up.  Should be for an interesting 2010!

In all honesty, I'm not as upset as I thought I would be. I think I was prepared for this outcome.

The good part of this is we now know who we need to get out of office.
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old, out of touch, entrenched-and-untouchable-because-of-the-old-conservatives-codger.
So very disappointing and embarrasing.
We need a third party candidate. McDirk! Run! Run!

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He's not out of touch with communnity, some of you are though. I'll vote him back in along with others who want him back.  He was always suporting gay issues, as soon as he says no to one, he's evil?   

I think you're mistaken here. The demographic of Astoria and LIC has changed and thankfully, there aren't many left who would support such a prejudiced and bigoted policy. I think he'll realize that when he is voted out next year.

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He's not out of touch with communnity, some of you are though. I'll vote him back in along with others who want him back.  He was always suporting gay issues, as soon as he says no to one, he's evil?   

This isn't one issue. This is a position that says to all Americans and to the entire world that we don't believe that homosexual people are as valid as heterosexual people and that homosexual people do not have the same unalienable rights to pursue happiness that we supposedly have promised to all of our citizenry.

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I think you're mistaken here. The demographic of Astoria and LIC has changed and thankfully, there aren't many left who would support such a prejudiced and bigoted policy. I think he'll realize that when he is voted out next year.

I'm very interested in helping to make this happen. Anyone that is similarly interested, please PM me.

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I'm very interested in helping to make this happen. Anyone that is similarly interested, please PM me.

I am also interested in working to unseat the good Senator in favour of someone who realizes that we live in an ever evolving neighbourhood and not in "Archie Bunker times" any longer.


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I'm far from old, and definately not out of touch.   As for the new diversity, it's not new. Latino  people have been here in large numbers from way back, and the large Muslim population (Big gay marriage suporters, by the way :-D)   are also part of Astoria.

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old, out of touch, entrenched-and-untouchable-because-of-the-old-conservatives-codger.
So very disappointing and embarrasing.
We need a third party candidate. McDirk! Run! Run!

Onerato has been a liberal all his career.

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Onerato has been a liberal all his career.

I don't think you can call someone a liberal if they aren't a proponent of equal rights.

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I just sent an email and a hard copy letter to Sen. Oronato expressing my extreme disappointment with his vote and lack of explanation on the Senate floor. I urge you to do the same.

His website with contact info is here: http://www.nysenate.gov/senator/george-onorato

It's an embarrassing day to be an Astorian.

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Just thought everyone following this thread would find this article from the Daily News
site interesting - just saw it myself.

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2009/12/03/2009-12-03_gov_paterson_.html

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We don't really write much on Joey in Astoria about politics (we touch on it but that's about it), but thanks to the nudging of a long time reader, we put something up today.  It has all of Onorato's contact info in it, plus a great video of Senator Diane Savino's defense of marriage equality and why she voted for it.

Marriage Equality and Queens

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We don't really write much on Joey in Astoria about politics (we touch on it but that's about it), but thanks to the nudging of a long time reader, we put something up today.  It has all of Onorato's contact info in it, plus a great video of Senator Diane Savino's defense of marriage equality and why she voted for it.

Marriage Equality and Queens

Isn't Senator Diane Savino amazing?  She is truly a gem, brilliant, kind, compassionate, visionary.  She's one of my favorite elected officials around.

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Isn't Senator Diane Savino amazing?  She is truly a gem, brilliant, kind, compassionate, visionary.  She's one of my favorite elected officials around.

She's great.  I was not really aware of her before, but was really affected by her speech in that video.  I'll continue to pay attention to her after this.

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She should come and represent us instead of Brooklyn and Staten Island!  Her speech had me in tears.

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I'm very interested in helping to make this happen. Anyone that is similarly interested, please PM me.

I'm interested in well.  I'm ashamed to say that I've never involved myself in local politics before, but my senator, someone who supposedly holds liberal values, committed an inexcusable act, and it's got me rearing for a fight.  As sad and disappointed I am, I am also really excited for the 2010 election.

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I think there are a number of potential candidates and I'd be shocked if one (or more) don't step up.  Should be for an interesting 2010!

Who are some of these possibilities?

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I don't think you can call someone a liberal if they aren't a proponent of equal rights.

He has been, just because he finally disagrees with ONE issue, you want the man's head.

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He has been, just because he finally disagrees with ONE issue, you want the man's head.

That is not completely right.

Let me put it this way. I have always believed that those in power for a long time lose touch with the current world. And that is not just an attack on Onorato.

Yes, I am focusing on marriage equality. But, in the end, it is much greater.

I want politicians that can understand what is happening in their community and react in a positive and relevant way. And our current Senator cannot do that.


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and the large Muslim population (Big gay marriage suporters, by the way :-D)   are also part of Astoria.


hehehe....................just caught that. LOL
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Looking at the negative nods in this thread makes me a sad panda.

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That is not completely right.

Let me put it this way. I have always believed that those in power for a long time lose touch with the current world. And that is not just an attack on Onorato.

Yes, I am focusing on marriage equality. But, in the end, it is much greater.

I want politicians that can understand what is happening in their community and react in a positive and relevant way. And our current Senator cannot do that.




This is exactly the issue.

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Onerato has been a liberal all his career.

What on earth makes you think Onorato has been a liberal his entire career?  He's not pro choice on abortion, he voted to reinstate the death penalty and he's against same sex marriage.  He's an old timer in politics who's education does not extend beyond that of a High School diploma.  God bless him for that and I'm not trying to say that you have to have a brilliant education to be a good politician but I can't help but cringe when I hear some of these political jerk offs try to put a sentence together.  But I digress....I have to believe that there is someone out there in this district that is better than Onorato and I'm not just saying that because of his position on marriage equality.  The only reason he is still in office is because the overwhelming majority of people are completely and utterly apathetic when it comes to local politics.

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What on earth makes you think Onorato has been a liberal his entire career?  He's not pro choice on abortion, he voted to reinstate the death penalty and he's against same sex marriage.  He's an old timer in politics who's education does not extend beyond that of a High School diploma.  God bless him for that and I'm not trying to say that you have to have a brilliant education to be a good politician but I can't help but cringe when I hear some of these political jerk offs try to put a sentence together.  But I digress....I have to believe that there is someone out there in this district that is better than Onorato and I'm not just saying that because of his position on marriage equality.  The only reason he is still in office is because the overwhelming majority of people are completely and utterly apathetic when it comes to local politics.

Thanks for this AJTNYC - I've been wanting to see more information about Onorato's voting history.  This looks like an enlightening start.

In the past, the "old-timers" in this district have been consistent about showing up to vote.  Now it's time that we make it heard by all, including the more recent residents of the district that we pay a price for not engaging in local electoral politics.  This is a great time to become involved - as the over-quoted saying goes: think globally, act locally.

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Here is Oronato's complete voting record.  The same link also has his interest group ratings.

I think there are a number of potential candidates and I'd be shocked if one (or more) don't step up.  Should be for an interesting 2010!

I hope you are right, and I am also interested in hearing your take on who some of these candidates may be.  I also hope that people who are energized now will stay interested and actually vote in 2010.

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Re: Why?: Astoria repped by Onorato,
« Reply #37 on: December 04, 2009, 10:56:43 AM »
Here is Oronato's complete voting record.  The same link also has his interest group ratings.



Thanks.
The Civil Rights ratings, not so good.   :|
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Onorato was a good old-school labor guy, watched the interests of the working folks.  Surely it is possible to find good candidates in this district who can maintain those priorities while protecting a woman's right to choice, and commitment to civil rights and equality.

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Like a lot of other people on this board, I was really inspired and moved by Senator Savino's floor speech on Wednesday.  I just found out she grew up in Astoria.  Check it out in this NY Magazine interview here:

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2009/12/state_sen_diane_savino_gay_rig.html

I knew there was something special about her  :-)

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hehehe....................just caught that. LOL

Thank you, thank you.   :rock:

Seriously, they are voting, and are a growing population.  I wonder how  a gay bar or club would do on Steinway between 25th and 28th avenue?   I got a friend who hangs in Egyption club up there, I think I'll tell him one is opening, I'll report back on his reaction. Believe, it will be interesting.  Compared to him on gay stuff, I'm Michael Musto. 

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Thank you, thank you.   :rock:

Seriously, they are voting, and are a growing population.  I wonder how  a gay bar or club would do on Steinway between 25th and 28th avenue?   I got a friend who hangs in Egyption club up there, I think I'll tell him one is opening, I'll report back on his reaction. Believe, it will be interesting.  Compared to him on gay stuff, I'm Michael Musto. 
Oh Joey please, of course a gay bar or club would not survive on Steinway between 25th and 28th ave...that's why all the gay closeted muslims in Queens (no pun intended) run around the corner to Mix on 30th ave or Lavish or Jackson Heights.... :-P  and yes i hope they vote....their conscience.

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« Reply #42 on: December 05, 2009, 07:20:15 AM »
I just found out she grew up in Astoria.  Check it out in this NY Magazine interview here:

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2009/12/state_sen_diane_savino_gay_rig.html


:mrgreen:

That profile is so much cooler than I expected.
Does it persuade you to move to SI?


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Okay. So what else is important to you in your job right now?
Dealing with next year's budget crisis. This deficit-reduction act (the Senate passed yesterday) is just a prelude to next year. We are going to have to make some really difficult decisions about cutting spending that we all have to care about it. Everyone is going to have to suffer a little.

Well, okay, you had an intense day. How will you chill out tonight?
I'm going to meet Matt and his partner, and we're going to have dinner and commiserate on the failure of this vote. We're going to Enoteca Maria, where every night a woman from a different region of Italy is the cook.

You're cool. Do you want a boyfriend?
Why, are you asking me out?





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You know, just once, I'd like to see this conversation (and many others) on this board not break down into "those of us who moved here in the last 10 years are so much more enlightened and liberal than those Old Timey Astorians." I know this might be shocking, but it is possible to be a fifth generation resident of the neighborhood and support gay marriage. I am really sick of people who have lived here for all of five minutes telling me what kind of person I am, just because they have some image in their heads of what a person native to Astoria is like (as opposed to what "Astorians" are like). We don't need a new senator because Onorato is out of touch with the "changing demographics" of the neighborhood-- we need a new senator because Onorato is out of touch, period.

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You know, just once, I'd like to see this conversation (and many others) on this board not break down into "those of us who moved here in the last 10 years are so much more enlightened and liberal than those Old Timey Astorians." I know this might be shocking, but it is possible to be a fifth generation resident of the neighborhood and support gay marriage. I am really sick of people who have lived here for all of five minutes telling me what kind of person I am, just because they have some image in their heads of what a person native to Astoria is like (as opposed to what "Astorians" are like). We don't need a new senator because Onorato is out of touch with the "changing demographics" of the neighborhood-- we need a new senator because Onorato is out of touch, period.

I really appreciate your posting, MLE.  Your point out an extremely important fact for this discussion.  It is not helpful to paint any group with a broad brush, making sweeping generalizations.  We run the risk of creating unhelpful polarization within the community, when what would serve us all would be to build and develop our existing points of connection.  I think what some have in mind is as much a generational difference of beliefs as it is about background and geography.  For heaven's sake - I grew up in Alabama, myself. 

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I really appreciate your posting, MLE.  Your point out an extremely important fact for this discussion.  It is not helpful to paint any group with a broad brush, making sweeping generalizations.  We run the risk of creating unhelpful polarization within the community, when what would serve us all would be to build and develop our existing points of connection.  I think what some have in mind is as much a generational difference of beliefs as it is about background and geography.  For heaven's sake - I grew up in Alabama, myself. 

So true! I was pleasantly surprised to hear that my parents, who have been a bit disapproving of homosexuality in the past (esp. my Dad) voted "No" on Proposition 8 last year in CA where they now live. They realize that it's a civil issue, not a religious one. These are both people who grew up in the Bible Belt, so just because someone grows up in a conservative area doesn't mean they can't think for themselves and/or change their minds.

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Looking at the negative nods in this thread makes me a sad panda.

If you're a sad panda, I'm a suicidal one.  Look how many neg nods I get.   :-)   Don't let that bother  you.   

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I'm hearing that Onorato has announced that he will not run for re-election, and will retire.


 

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