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Author Topic: States Consider Drug Tests for Welfare Recipients - I favor this action.  (Read 1423 times)

Offline Pawgny

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Re: States Consider Drug Tests for Welfare Recipients - I favor this action.
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2009, 09:20:21 AM »
Too costly IMHO. I am all for reasonable (and some unreasonable) measures to ensure that recipients of public assistance meet societal expectations. I do think that case workers should be able to order drug tests for suspicious behaviour. But to do wholesale drug testing would be just another huge expense.

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Re: States Consider Drug Tests for Welfare Recipients - I favor this action.
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2009, 09:30:13 AM »
They also mentioned drug testing for recipients of unemployment insurance, which I believe is completely bone-headed. 

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Re: States Consider Drug Tests for Welfare Recipients - I favor this action.
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2009, 10:05:33 AM »
Drug tests for bankers!

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Re: States Consider Drug Tests for Welfare Recipients - I favor this action.
« Reply #4 on: October 22, 2009, 01:12:33 PM »
Too costly IMHO. I am all for reasonable (and some unreasonable) measures to ensure that recipients of public assistance meet societal expectations. I do think that case workers should be able to order drug tests for suspicious behaviour. But to do wholesale drug testing would be just another huge expense.

It's not like they'd be drug testing EVERYONE on a regular basis.  It's a random drug screen.  It shouldn't be really that costly.  The way I see it, just the gov't can just bluff the whole thing and it'll cost next to nothing.  Just publicize that there's a random drug screen policy being enforced and just never do anything.  Then when people start catching on, test 1000 people at random and that'll set everyone straight for the next couple of years.  Scare tactics, baby.

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Re: States Consider Drug Tests for Welfare Recipients - I favor this action.
« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2009, 04:12:33 PM »
I have many problems with this notion stemming from a variety of rationale, but to get right down to the biggest issue, it is not fair to assume that drug use is always a cognitive choice.

Yes, it's frustrating to imagine drug addicts collecting welfare and using those funds to continue their drug use, but that frustration should not be directed solely towards the user. Perhaps if you're imagining an out of control-hedonistic suburban kid who is exploiting the system, you would have a valid point, but in reality, drug addicts are spawned from systematic problems in society. Why would the answer be to punish them by effectively revoking their welfare and cause them to potentially spiral even more into their addiction?

Drug testing is not at all cheap. The funds that would be used to implement such a policy would be a tragic waste knowing that those same funds could be focused on drug addiction treatment or prevention. Let's use that cash to SAVE drug users, not to use it to ruin more lives just because we don't believe it's fair. Many drug addicts probably don't think it's fair that they got dealt the worst cards in the deck to begin with.

AND this is all under the assumption that drug addicts are siphoning welfare money for more drugs. If a young single mother, who legitimately tries hard to care for herself and others, happened to toke up once last month as, perhaps the only not-poopie part of her life, now we're going cancel her welfare? Are we going to cheer as she and her kid end up in the street because justice prevailed?

You want to talk total welform reform, let's talk welfare reform, but mandatory drug testing for welfare recipients is a inanely simple, harmful, ineffective, and myopic solution to a much more complex problem.


 

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